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I see what a few bad muslims do wrong makes everybody look down on the rest of this religion when mosy of them are good people.
Originally posted by Sratpami agree that it is wrong to condemn many for the work of a few. i would also caution that it can work both ways -- i would not claim that 'everybody' looks down on them.
I see what a few bad muslims do wrong makes everybody look down on the rest of this religion when mosy of them are good people.
Originally posted by SratpamThe religion is called "Islam". A "Muslim" is a practitioner of Islam.
I see what a few bad muslims do wrong makes everybody look down on the rest of this religion when mosy of them are good people.
Originally posted by SratpamIt's probably true that most of all people, whether religious or not, could be called 'good people', so that can't be used as a way to judge any religion's value.
I see what a few bad muslims do wrong makes everybody look down on the rest of this religion when mosy of them are good people.
Originally posted by chinking58Why should any religion be true? Does it make the religion more or less good if it is factually inaccurate, or if it is allegorical rather than descriptive?
It's probably true that most of all people, whether religious or not, could be called 'good people', so that can't be used as a way to judge any religion's value.
One must seriously study the claims of a religion for truthfulness.
And, be prepared to reject the idea that all religions can be right, or that the truth is some combination ...[text shortened]... ause at some point they make opposite claims. And of course, two opposites can't both be true!
Originally posted by AcolyteWhaaaaa?
Why should any religion be true? Does it make the religion more or less good if it is factually inaccurate, or if it is allegorical rather than descriptive?
Originally posted by MetamorphosisIn your opinion of course........Did you read all that the Koran has to say on what to do all Christians and Jews?
The religion is called "Islam". A "Muslim" is a practitioner of Islam.
I've looked at the Koran and find it to be a generally uninspiring work. Parts of it are commendable, for example, where Muslims are exhorted to "never convert others to Islam on the point of a sword" (paraphrase), but other parts are full of inflammatory extremist rhetor ...[text shortened]... phy when it comes to exploring the metaphysics of enlightenment.
In my opinion, of course...
Originally posted by blindfaith101As I already said, the Koran expresses multiple or apparently contradictory viewpoints. For every militant statement it makes, it has pacifist statements. Much like the Bible with its "eye for an eye" and "love your enemies". These statements have to be read in context, although fairly persuasive arguments could be made that all these holy books were written by someone with multiple personality disorder...
In your opinion of course........Did you read all that the Koran has to say on what to do all Christians and Jews?
Originally posted by MetamorphosisYet those viewpoints of hatred affect all Jews and all Christians.
As I already said, the Koran expresses multiple or apparently contradictory viewpoints. For every militant statement it makes, it has pacifist statements. Much like the Bible with its "eye for an eye" and "love your enemies". These statements have to be read in context, although fairly persuasive arguments could be made that all these holy books were written by someone with multiple personality disorder...
Originally posted by blindfaith101Holy Bible dwarfs the Koran when it comes to viewpoints that can be interpreted as potentially "hateful". Just check out the book of Genesis for the viewpoints promulgated about women. Eve takes the fall for the Fall. Ever wondered why? Or check out Leviticus for other viewpoints that have been variously interpreted to persecute certain segments of humanity. Leviticus 20:27 alone, one simple paragraph about "putting to death" those with "familiar spirits" (witches) and "wizards", is the theological basis for the entire European Inquisition that burned tens of thousands of so-called "witches" and "wizards" at the stake.
Yet those viewpoints of hatred affect all Jews and all Christians.
Originally posted by MetamorphosisThank god we don't believe that anymore and can view the bible for what it is, another ancient document.
Holy Bible dwarfs the Koran when it comes to viewpoints that can be interpreted as potentially "hateful". Just check out the book of Genesis for the viewpoints promulgated about women. Eve takes the fall for the Fall. Ever wondered ...[text shortened]... thousands of so-called "witches" and "wizards" at the stake.
Originally posted by MetamorphosisMost similarities between the three monotheistic religions begin and end in the Old Testament. The New Testament brings the teachings of Jesus, and rejects the "eye for eye" ethics, for example, and, rather importantly, the notion of the wrathful God. Judaism and Islam are Old Testament in their concept of God.
Holy Bible dwarfs the Koran when it comes to viewpoints that can be interpreted as potentially "hateful". Just check out the book of Genesis for the viewpoints promulgated about women. Eve takes the fall for the Fall. Ever wondered ...[text shortened]... thousands of so-called "witches" and "wizards" at the stake.
Originally posted by sjeghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
Sure, there was a ban or reading any books that weren't the koran (book being always singular) up until very recently indeed (second half of 19th C.), if I am not mistaken
Originally posted by sjegWhat about the commentaries and translations of the Classical Philosophers?
Most similarities between the three monotheistic religions begin and end in the Old Testament. The New Testament brings the teachings of Jesus, and rejects the "eye for eye" ethics, for example, and, rather importantly, the notion of the wrathful God. Judaism and Islam are Old Testament in their concept of God.
And, though I agree about the architecture, ...[text shortened]... urious.
Art is one of the first victims of fundamentalism (freedom of thought being another).