Spirituality
20 Dec 07
20 Dec 07
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Originally posted by rwingett"Remains found in the Kashmir region of India suggest the fox-sized mammal is the long-sought land-based ancestor of whales, dolphins and porpoise."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7150627.stm
A key link in the evolution of whales has been discovered. Yet another bit of evidence for evolution. And, yes, you creationists, it is the so called "macro evolution" that you take such exception to.
According to the liberal American perspective the world's population is divided into irrational people, called creationists, and "rational" enlightened people, the libs themselves.
...... such an exotic country, the US of A .... really .... 😛
21 Dec 07
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Originally posted by ivanhoeAccording to the conservative Catholic perspective the world's population can be easily divided into logical groups, the individuals of which all possess/follow the group stereotypes.
"Remains found in the Kashmir region of India [b]suggest the fox-sized mammal is the long-sought land-based ancestor of whales, dolphins and porpoise."
According to the liberal American perspective the world's population is divided into irrational people, called creationists, and "rational" enlightened people, the libs themselves.
...... such an exotic country, the US of A .... really .... 😛[/b]
Also according to Catholics, buggering small boys is lots of fun.
Ivanhoe, you need to get over that.
21 Dec 07
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungTalk about broad-brushing! Probably less than .000001% of Catholics ever "buggered" a small boy, and probably about 99% of Catholics sincerely condemned the practice. It really hurts your credibility when you say things that are that silly.
Also according to Catholics, buggering small boys is lots of fun.
Edit: I am NOT a Catholic, but I really hate to see a whole group of people wrongfully castigated.
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeThat's the diachotomy? Liberal and Creationist?
According to the liberal American perspective the world's population is divided into irrational people, called creationists, and "rational" enlightened people, the libs themselves.
...... such an exotic country, the US of A .... really .... 😛
No wonder the majority of your posts are cut-and-paste jobs. Those few which post original
material are downright moronic.
Nemesio
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by KellyJayWe have a complete fossil bridge between species. It's not "just one fossil" but we have a complete series. Is believing that they were all living creatures so wrong? I don't think so. I don't think you have any evidence to the contrary. Do we have a mechanism? Yes, evolution by natural selection. It makes a prediction (gradual change). We have fossils which show gradual change. Logic and parsimony does the rest.
You see a couple of similar features in a creature that has as much
in common with a deer as anything else if it was really a living
creature at all, and call it a relative to a whale, and this for you is
observable science and evidence. Personally, seeing life and the
balance that we see through the entire universe to support life to me
suggests desig ...[text shortened]... hout evidence or
witnesses it is just that you have closed your mind to the possibility.
Kelly
You have "goddunnit" as the answer to every question.
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzYou have a complete bridge, show me!
We have a complete fossil bridge between species. It's not "just one fossil" but we have a complete series. Is believing that they were all living creatures so wrong? I don't think so. I don't think you have any evidence to the contrary. Do we have a mechanism? Yes, evolution by natural selection. It makes a prediction (gradual change). We have ...[text shortened]... gic and parsimony does the rest.
You have "goddunnit" as the answer to every question.
Kelly
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by rwingettYou can see physical artifcasts, that is what you see, you claim they
Seeing is believing. Although I have not seen this particular creature, I can go into any natural history museum across the country and see a plethora of other physical artifacts that have been wrought by evolution. The evidence is right there to be seen. It requires only observation, not faith. In fact, it takes an incredible amount of faith to deny the validity of the evidence.
were 'wrought by evolution' and between your ears you are right.
Kelly
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeYou think a fox size creature is an ancestor of whales due to some
"Remains found in the Kashmir region of India [b]suggest the fox-sized mammal is the long-sought land-based ancestor of whales, dolphins and porpoise."
According to the liberal American perspective the world's population is divided into irrational people, called creationists, and "rational" enlightened people, the libs themselves.
...... such an exotic country, the US of A .... really .... 😛[/b]
thing about the shape of it's head. Really, think about that for a
moment! You don't think it could also just be another creture and
not have anything to do with either a fox, deer, or a whale just as
easily?
Kelly
21 Dec 07
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Originally posted by KellyJayDid you complete a grade of school higher than Jethro? Or were you just too lazy to actually read the linked article?
You think a fox size creature is an ancestor of whales due to some
thing about the shape of it's head. Really, think about that for a
moment! You don't think it could also just be another creture and
not have anything to do with either a fox, deer, or a whale just as
easily?
Kelly
21 Dec 07
One of the world's leading evolutionary biologists, the late Dr. Steven J. Gould, postulated his "punctuated equilibriam(sic)" theory because his careful examination of the fossil record lead him to believe that the Darwinian model of "gradualism" was unsupportable.
I'm not trying to argue against evolution per se, I'm just trying to point out that scientists can even disagree over what constitutes a "gap."
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by no1marauderOne can of course agree or disagree with KellyJay, but he or she is obviously very articulate and intelligent. Your ad hominem attack doesn't help this discussion move forward, IMO.
Did you complete a grade of school higher than Jethro? Or were you just too lazy to actually read the linked article?
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by gaychessplayerDo you really think this discussion will move forward without the ad hominems?
One can of course agree or disagree with KellyJay, but he or she is obviously very articulate and intelligent. Your ad hominem attack doesn't help this discussion move forward, IMO.
21 Dec 07
Originally posted by SquelchbelchYou are mistaken. It is the Flying Spagetti Monster that alters test results etc by touching them with his noodly appendage. Evidence for the FSM (and the fact that lack of Pirates is the real reason for Global Warming) can be found on the FSM website.
God may have created the world to appear to be the result of evolution to test our faith, eh?
The Biblical account could be part of the (dare I say it) deception.