1. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    I'm suprised Ivanhoe hasn't posted this one for us yet.

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pside31.html

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    Another alleged sex-abuse victim of McCormack comes forward
    January 31, 2006

    Another Chicago boy Monday told Chicago Police and prosecutors that he had been sexually abused by the Rev. Daniel McCormack, a Roman Catholic priest who was charged earlier this month with molesting two boys at St. Agatha Parish in North Lawndale.

    The boy, 11, who attends a Chicago public school and not St. Agatha's parochial school, told authorities that McCormack abused him and gave him gifts, a law enforcement source said, adding, "What he was saying was consistent with the other" allegations against the priest.

    On Jan. 21, prosecutors charged McCormack with two counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse for allegedly fondling the genitals of two boys -- an 8-year-old (now 11) from Willowbrook on two occasions in December 2003 when they were alone in St. Agatha Church after mass, and a 9-year-old (now 13) who claims the priest molested him two to three times a month from September 2001 to January 2005.

    The 11-year-old boy and his parents took their allegations to police and prosecutors Monday with their attorney, Jeff Anderson of Minnesota, who is probably the pre-eminent lawyer in the nation representing alleged victims of clergy sexual abuse. In the last 20 years, Anderson has sued more than half of the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States and has represented more than 500 who said they were victims of abuse at the hands of priests.

    Standing in front of St. Agatha Church on Monday afternoon, Anderson would give few details about his client and the alleged abuse because he wanted to "protect the family." He would say only that the boy was under the age of 12 and that the abuse took place more than once sometime in the last two years.

    "He is a sweet boy," Anderson said of his young client. "He's confused and he's hurting and he's scared. He's in a tough spot. He's in a place that no child should be, not in this day, not in this time. Not, particularly, knowing what we now know, that this archdiocese has known about this offender for months if not years."

    Jim Dwyer, a spokesman for the Chicago archdiocese, said Monday evening that church officials had not yet been contacted by the family of the 11-year-old boy or by Anderson. "We want him to come forward and everyone else to come forward," Dwyer said. "We've got good policies and procedures, but they don't work if people don't come forward."

    Cardinal Francis George has said McCormack was not removed from ministry at St. Agatha last August, when the Willowbrook boy took his allegations against the priest to Chicago Police and prosecutors, because neither the boy nor his parents took the complaint directly to the archdiocese, a step that is necessary to begin the canonical process of removing a pastor from his church. At the time, civil authorities felt they did not have sufficient evidence to criminally charge McCormack.


    Last week, a Chicago nun who worked at Holy Family School, where McCormack celebrated weekly mass for pupils, told the Chicago Sun-Times that a fourth-grade student claimed McCormack had asked him to drop his pants in the sacristy of the church next door when the two were alone after mass in 2000. The nun says she reported the incident to church officials six years ago but her warnings went unheeded.

    "This won't be the last time you hear from us about this," said Anderson, who declined to say explicitly that he planned to file a civil lawsuit in the McCormack case. "They still haven't gotten the message. And I haven't started legal action . . . but obviously more will be required to get [the archdiocese's] attention."
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    Discuss.
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    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I'm suprised Ivanhoe hasn't posted this one for us yet.

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pside31.html

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    [b]Another alleged sex-abuse victim of McCormack comes forward

    January 31, 2006

    Another Chicago boy Monday told Chicago Police and prosecutors that he ha ...[text shortened]... ---------------------------------------------------


    Discuss.[/b]
    I am currently involved in a case (not against a priest) where I have filed a grievance with this person's licensing agency. I can't begin to tell you how hopeless it feels to take up a cause against a person who has the full support of a system behind them. The system is supposed to protect the public, but insiders get special treatment. I may have to go to a newspaper to ratchet it up a bit.
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    12 Feb '06 01:32
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    I am currently involved in a case (not against a priest)
    Count your blessings. At least you didn't have to drop your pants in the sacristy.
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    Examples: This person's verbal abuse and stalking have been called "love" and "a little over reaction."

    When interviewed by an investigator and told her that I was presented with the threat of violence by this person. Her response: "He tends to take rejection personally and may have over reacted."
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    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Count your blessings. At least you didn't have to drop your pants in the sacristy.
    It seems that prison ministry would be the perfect fit for some of these guys.
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    12 Feb '06 10:13
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I'm suprised Ivanhoe hasn't posted this one for us yet.

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pside31.html

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    [b]Another alleged sex-abuse victim of McCormack comes forward

    January 31, 2006

    Another Chicago boy Monday told Chicago Police and prosecutors that he ha ...[text shortened]... ---------------------------------------------------


    Discuss.[/b]
    Is it your position that at the moment anyone is accused of anything they should be presumed guilty and punished?
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    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Is it your position that at the moment anyone is accused of anything they should be presumed guilty and punished?
    No. It's my position that any priest accused of child molestation should be removed from duty pending any outstanding accusations, at the very least until each accusation is criminally disposed of and only returned to duty once they are also cleared by a genuine internal investigation by the Church. Even if they are criminally acquitted, they still may be molesting, so you can go cry "due process" elsewhere. I'm not calling for them to be jailed. I'm calling for the Church and its devoted adherents to wake up and acknowledge a problem that's been facilitated and perpetuated at their hands, under their own noses, by their own policies which place the Church's image above the safety of its children. The Church needs to be proactive in removing them, not turning a blind eye in defending them.
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    That's the way it should be Doctor.
    But how does it go. Cardinal Joe? No, I can't believe he does these kind of things. He is such nice bloke. And devoted too. Always on time for the choir. Did Davy tell you this? Ah, he said things like this before and priest Marciano (who appeared to be a close friend of Joe) found no evidence then. I heard Davy tried to seduce Benedictus one time. Really? Who told you? I can not recall. But I do know that Davy is involved in more stories like this. Davy must be liar. Maybe he is not suited to be a priest after all. How can he get into paradise when he keeps behaving like this? Ask him if he wants to leave the church and sell cars. If we get falsely accused all the time, nobody wants to be catholic anymore and everyone turns towards Mecca. Or even worse; we need to organize the gay-parade next year. Ssshh.
    My lips are sealed (so cardinal Joe can not juice me in there).
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    Originally posted by kirksey957
    I am currently involved in a case (not against a priest) where I have filed a grievance with this person's licensing agency. I can't begin to tell you how hopeless it feels to take up a cause against a person who has the full support of a system behind them. The system is supposed to protect the public, but insiders get special treatment. I may have to go to a newspaper to ratchet it up a bit.
    are you right? or do you look/need to justify your own actions?
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    I am not involved in such a thing. Sexual abuse in general is horrofying, and especially when it is done by people who should be trusted.
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    26 Mar '06 11:20
    Originally posted by Sake
    I am not involved in such a thing. Sexual abuse in general is horrofying, and especially when it is done by people who should be trusted.
    i agree, but is this really a topic of spirituality?
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    Originally posted by Kaboooomba
    i agree, but is this really a topic of spirituality?
    They ARE priests!

    Finish the sentence competition time....


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    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    They ARE priests!

    Finish the sentence competition time....


    Men of _ _ _!
    (not against a priest)
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    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    They ARE priests!

    Finish the sentence competition time....


    Men of _ _ _!
    you say that... not me.
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    I can imagine these priests turn into something very spiritual. During a sermon perhaps. In the name of the father, the holy spirit and the holy ghost not to forget, recieve this. It's close to S/M if you ask me.
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