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@kellyjay said
How would you know?
How would I know what?


@kellyjay said
You have been a Theist, and how many other definitions have you applied to yourself and are you sure you got it right now?
I was a Christian for 25 or so years. I have been a non-Christian for about 20 years. How many is that? You count it. And yes, I am comfortable with, and clear-eyed about, my lack of theist belief.


@kellyjay said
To suggest our compasses are broken suggests even my own is as well.
If you feel your moral compass is "broken" then so be it.

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@fmf said
If you feel your moral compass is "broken" then so be it.
If we were speaking of one compass being broken only it alone would not point as
correctly as the rest, but the whole lot is broken so that they all are pointing every
which way. You don’t see that and of them all only yours is good?


@fmf said
I was a Christian for 25 or so years. I have been a non-Christian for about 20 years. How many is that? You count it. And yes, I am comfortable with, and clear-eyed about, my lack of theist belief.
Yes your compass as been as solid they come.


@kellyjay said
If we were speaking of one compass being broken only it alone would not point as correctly as the rest, but the whole lot is broken so that they all are are pointing every which way. You don’t see that and of them all yours is good?
Once again, my moral compass is not "broken". If you are worried that yours is "broken", then I hope you sort it out.


@kellyjay said
Yes your compass as been as solid they come.
You asked me "how many other definitions have you applied to yourself?" And now those goalposts have crumbled away when it turned out not to be a gotcha question.

My loss of faith affected what I do and don't believe about supernatural causality and the identity of Jesus, but it didn't affect my moral compass.

The influence that Christian values ["nurture"] had on it did not disappear when I realized that my faith was lost.


@fmf said
You asked me "how many other definitions have you applied to yourself?" And now those goalposts have crumbled away when it turned out not to be a gotcha question.

My loss of faith affected what I do and don't believe about supernatural causality and the identity of Jesus, but it didn't affect my moral compass.

The influence that Christian values ["nurture"] had on it did not disappear when I realized that my faith was lost.
Broken


@kellyjay said
Broken
If that's what your moral compass tells you, so be it.


@kellyjay said
Do you feel in life there should be no consequences for our actions
inactions, words, or all in all, how we live our lives, do we have a way
should we live?
Who argues that "there should be no consequences for our actions"?



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The OP is a gormless strawman. It's just a prelude to one of his dogeared riffs: people's moral compasses are useless and broken if they don't "point in the same direction" as his.


@fmf said
The OP is just a prelude to one of his dogeared riffs: people's moral compasses are useless and broken if they don't "point in the same direction" as his.
His next go-to riff may well be that life and the world just don't make any sense if there is no "ultimate" cosmic justice.


@fmf said
The OP is a gormless strawman. It's just a prelude to one of his dogeared riffs: people's moral compasses are useless and broken if they don't "point in the same direction" as his.
You don't follow along well since the point of broken moral compasses is that
we cannot look at ourselves and judge properly because everyone has a broken
compass. You, however, think yours is working fine compared to everyone else',
I supposed, and you think I'm the arrogant one here?

Concerning consequences for actions, in a world of broken compasses, can you
claim one is doing wrong when they are simply following along with their
compass and may, just like you, believe their compass is spot on, correct? You
do judge others here for how they think; I'm assuming because being the one
with the unbroken compass, you can.

Punishment for actions and inactions is and right of culture or the authority
whose power we find ourselves in, this is acceptably true?