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Originally posted by black beetlesure thing my trusty feer, in fact, to be honest, i had hoped that the civil unrest in your country might have made you tae think of coming hame! whence we could enjoy some findus crispy pancakes and a wee blether oer a pint of some stout ale in the student union!
Fine!
Ye know well the time when the minutes wingd their way wi pleasure for me is almost melted; I ride an ant to everywhere and I surf in a butterfly's teadrop, but I hope I'll soon have the chance to give you a detailed answer my trusty feer
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Originally posted by RJHindsYou encountered me, but never defined me as an idiot. I'd like to ask, in conjunction with this thread I just read, that is it possible to have truth being a Buddhist?
Have you noticed, that now I can call an idiot, when I encounter one?
As for that, you see, there is no religion - but a philosophy of living and daily life.
Can a written book of philosophies replace a religion? Or does that question call for a new thread of its own?
You know in your heart, if you know enough about it, that Buddhism is not atheistic as most perceivers here state it is. There is room for a God in Buddhism, alas not awakened or discovered yet.
Am I an idiot for not being religious, in this sense? 😉
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAye my ancient trusty drouthy cronie rabbie, a wee dram or a tippeny would do up there in Bonie Glasgow, wham neer a town surpasses for honest men and bonie lasses 😵
sure thing my trusty feer, in fact, to be honest, i had hoped that the civil unrest in your country might have made you tae think of coming hame! whence we could enjoy some findus crispy pancakes and a wee blether oer a pint of some stout ale in the student union!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieEdit: “that is… …the least.”
that is fine dear beetle , its just not very convincing. We are aware that those creatures around us must kill each other in order to survive. We are human, we are conscious of inflicting pain, we do not need to kill each other in order to survive, thus the comparison between beast and human, between marking a territory and composing a symphony is ...[text shortened]... be argued (heaven forbid), that they are superfluous to our survival.
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It is not convincing to you, my trusty feer, and it is convincing to me, because your evaluation is different than mine: there are as many “convincing” realities as many are the sentient beings that they are constructing them out of their consciousness. Methinks science and philosophy provides constantly the more convincing theories and discards the more fragile -and all the core religious beliefs are, at least to me, all untenable -but that’s another story.
Oh well, the lions are also as conscious of inflicting pain (and of course of suffering) as we are. And the orcas, and the dolphins, etc. etc. However, as our proper knob already told us, we are killing in order to gain (power, money, fun, you name it). Therefore, my thesis as tenuous as it seems, it still holds, for we are all sentient beings that we are acting (Fine Arts included) solely according to our nature -and our nature is well expressed by evolutionary terms.
Edit: “How does… …naturally.”
Engaging in Arts relieves us at last of misery because it is another means of socialization, as it strengthens our very identity. I will give you an extreme example: Barberini, this noble dynasty, was among Rome’s greatest patrons of Art. The family was really powerful in the 17th century, when cardinal Maffeo Barberini became Pope Urban VIII. Under his commission the artists turned the city into a Baroque feast. Well, the coat of arms of Barberini are three bees in a V-formation, and you can see this sign all over Rome. However, the Barberini first arrived in Rome from Florence in the late 16th century, and back then their original name was Taffani (horsefly). Taffani changed very soon their name into Barberini getting rid of the disgusting insect, and then flew in the ancient royal symbol of the bee -and, mind you, not just a bee but three in formation! Thus the comparison between beast and human, between marking a territory wi pee or marking a territory wi bees in V-formation and turning a whole city in a showcase of Baroque just in order to state “Hey, this is Barberini’s territory!” is not tenuous at all, to say the least!
Edit: “ok, the language… …my orchestra?”
The sentient species have their own language/code of communication; the best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men gang aft agley, an’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain, for promis’d joy! I don’t know what the ants are really doing when they touch each other with their antennas, I don’t really know what the whales are singing to each other -but still they could be blest compared wi Us. All I know is that my reality is unique, that your reality is unique, that their reality is unique too.
Edit: “Thus… …our survival.”
Nope; the struggle is anyway strictly related to one’s nature and it is uniquely understood by each sentient being: although each position of the struggle is different, each position a struggle it remains.
And there is nothing superfluous in the nature of the sentient beings since their distinctive nature is bonded with cause-effect alone. And the cause-effect net of the nature of all the sentient beings is well expressed by evolutionary terms I reckon
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieBits of information are fine when they are archived in the mind, waiting for you to pick them up; and they are disastrous when they are popping out on their own, keeping you chained.
ah beetle, this wee sleekit cowerin timrous beastie and peasant farmer must think deeply about these expressions of your consciousness, about this nature and its implications.
Life belongs to you when you are balanced inside and outside: you have to enter your House, you have to leave your House.
We think because we don’t understand; when we understand we are thinking not, we just act.
Getting rid of your borrowed thoughts you remain with the thoughts that are 100% yours. Then, you have to evaluate them as well. Wht is their nature? Where are they coming from and where to they go when they pass?
You can transfer knowledge but you cannot transfer intelligence; intelligence is your sharpened ego. Yer Greek Jock feer spreads constantly the ego-killing poison😵
By means of intelligence you adapt to the new positions, and this, is derived by your ego alone. Mind is the Vehicle, intelligence is the ability to spot the positions, ego is a projection.
The Mind cannot drive silent; in the silence the Mind disappears. There is no Mind, there is just thought, pieces of information are popping up constantly one after another in an endless chain, so fast that finally you have the feeling that these thoughts are You. But they are not You: there are always intervals between your thoughts, you merely have to spot them. These intervals are You.
This is your nature. Your nature is the Mind, and the Mind is empty
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The above expression of my consciousness is pure noise, it is "good" solely for me under specific circumstances when I want to give shape to the Void. Discard it on the spot, develop your own Palace into the Silence, into a Silence before Logos. Whatever you 'll see in There, it is merely the projection of your own empty Mind
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Originally posted by sonhouseYes.
So in your view all that death for religious reasons is justified?
And the creationist science teacher denied the right to teach creationism along side evolution in a science class is unconscionable?
So in your mind, creationism, even though unproven scientifically, should be ruled to be fully equal with, nay, infinitely more correct than evolution i ...[text shortened]... wn in their own aboriginal classes?
http://www.cs.williams.edu/~lindsey/myths/myths_13.html
Yes.
Yes.
No forcing should be necessary, but freedom of religion should be allowed.
Originally posted by mikelomOf course not. You don't have to be religious to be a Christian.
You encountered me, but never defined me as an idiot. I'd like to ask, in conjunction with this thread I just read, that is it possible to have truth being a Buddhist?
As for that, you see, there is no religion - but a philosophy of living and daily life.
Can a written book of philosophies replace a religion? Or does that question call for a new threa ...[text shortened]... t awakened or discovered yet.
Am I an idiot for not being religious, in this sense? 😉
-m
Originally posted by RJHindsLove and respect for Life😵
What if anything can keep your joy up knowing that you have no hope?
However, hope -a serious distraction- is an enemy of mine. I cultivated my way of living so that I finally got rid of this affliction. I neither act nor I don't act because I "hope" (that, for example, I will succed), I either act or I don't act according to my evaluation (that is, whenever I decide I have to act, I act regardless of the outcome)
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Originally posted by black beetleAye, "hope" implies the flow of time and all that this brings with it. (potential for dissapointment, disaster,sadness, etc,etc. )
Love and respect for Life😵
However, hope -a serious distraction- is an enemy of mine. I cultivated my way of living so that I finally got rid of this affliction. I neither act nor I don't act because I "hope" (that, for example, I will succed), I either act or I don't act according to my evaluation (that is, whenever I decide I have to act, I act regardless of the outcome)
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It takes full conviction and focus on the part of the adept to go beyond relative terms like "hope" .
BTW, thnx for your neverending love for all the posters on this forum,(taking up some of the slack, if you will), even if some of them dont realize it, I for one really appreciate your posts. You never resort to any "below the belt" tactics. You are a fine example of how posters should behave and if RJHinds (and others) could just take a leaf from your shining examples I'm sure the forum would be better off for it.
Ok Joe, that's your cue to call me out for kissing a** 😀 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Originally posted by karoly aczelIs this your lover you are talking to?
Aye, "hope" implies the flow of time and all that this brings with it. (potential for dissapointment, disaster,sadness, etc,etc. )
It takes full conviction and focus on the part of the adept to go beyond relative terms like "hope" .
BTW, thnx for your neverending love for all the posters on this forum,(taking up some of the slack, if you will), even ...[text shortened]... that's your cue to call me out for kissing a** 😀 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Originally posted by black beetleYou say, "I act regardless of the outcome". That is where your problem is.
Love and respect for Life😵
However, hope -a serious distraction- is an enemy of mine. I cultivated my way of living so that I finally got rid of this affliction. I neither act nor I don't act because I "hope" (that, for example, I will succed), I either act or I don't act according to my evaluation (that is, whenever I decide I have to act, I act regardless of the outcome)
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You should act in accordance with "the word of truth", the Holy Bible. In
there is were you will find life and the truth.
Originally posted by RJHindsSo you are more attached to outcomes than the process to achieve those outcomes?
You say, "I act regardless of the outcome". That is where your problem is.
You shoud act in accordance with "the word of truth", the Holy Bible. In
there is were you will find life and the truth.