Originally posted by divegeester Only in a slavering right-wing American crazed sumbiatch I'm goona whoop your non-christian welfare suckin' ass kind of way.
Well I was talking to an electrician about the OC not Orange County but Obamacare. He pays $4,000 a year now and he says when Obamacare starts he will pay $20,000 a year.
Originally posted by RJHinds It looks like a disaster to me. That women said that she would have rather had 5 years instead of three to get it ready, but the President did not want to delay it like the Republicans suggested. So we have a website that does not work right, has low security, and upstart health services that are going bankrupt on government money because they are not gett ...[text shortened]... o it appears to me that a fitting name for it is an Obamanation of Desolation.
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Is it the rush to implement it that bothers you? or would you rather have the medicare system? It sounds good to me, I was watching TV earlier about the Grangemouth Refinery and one of the Investors was saying the UK is bad because of costs, pensions etc, he didn't say health but that's one of them, and its better to base such plants in cheaper countries. It bothers me that the Republicans and Investors like this have a 'pig on a treadmill' attitude to workers health and lives. That basically only works if you don't get ill, need a pension or a Dr, being a smoker helps. From what I can gather Obamacare is an attempt at universal insurance so everyone working can have cover, not poor / no cover for the those on lower incomes or with pre existing conditions. I'm no lefty but min wage should come with health and a pension.
Originally posted by RBHILL Well I was talking to an electrician about the OC not Orange County but Obamacare. He pays $4,000 a year now and he says when Obamacare starts he will pay $20,000 a year.
I do not believe yu one bit. If Christ exists, when you get to the gate, I cannot imagine they would let you in. Your are a meanie.
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Originally posted by e4chris Is it the rush to implement it that bothers you? or would you rather not have it at all? It sounds good to me, I was watching TV earlier about the Grangemouth Refinery and one of the Investors was saying the UK is bad because of costs, pensions etc, he didn't say health but that's one of them, and its better to base such plants in cheaper countries. It bothe ...[text shortened]... r with pre existing conditions. I'm no lefty but min wage should come with health and a pension.
Huh? You sound like a lefty to me.
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Originally posted by Phranny I do not believe yu one bit. If Christ exists, when you get to the gate, I cannot imagine they would let you in. Your are a meanie.
There was just a family on TV that paid about $300 a month, now it will be $1000 a month because of this "affordable"health insurance.
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What happened to trusting God for things? What will be next, will my taxes have to pay so everyone can have a car?, and why stop there?
Originally posted by checkbaiter Huh? You sound like a lefty to me.
To be honest it worries me a little when American people talk like that. We have the NHS in the UK and since the 1960s both parties supported it, the conservatives had a big part in its creation as well. Its a bit alien in most of the EU not to have state care. My family has a few Conservatives in it who were very keen on the NHS. I get called tory quite a lot, a bit like republican, but I find their views on health a bit cold, I couldn't turn people away like that.
Originally posted by RJHinds It looks like a disaster to me. That women said that she would have rather had 5 years instead of three to get it ready, but the President did not want to delay it like the Republicans suggested. So we have a website that does not work right, has low security, and upstart health services that are going bankrupt on government money because they are not gett ...[text shortened]... o it appears to me that a fitting name for it is an Obamanation of Desolation.
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"Obamanation of Desolation"
Where did you get this? Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity? Michael Savage?
Originally posted by checkbaiter What happened to trusting God for things? What will be next, will my taxes have to pay so everyone can have a car?, and why stop there?
Really, so health care, a matter of life and death, is a luxury, like a car? I suppose you are one of those so called Christians.
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Originally posted by Phranny Really, so health care, a matter of life and death, is a luxury, like a car? I suppose you are one of those so called Christians.
As it stands now, before obamacare, a hospital cannot turn down anyone. Now it will just cost more.
I think your so called compassion is misplaced. Yes, I am a Christian, who believes in a free society.
You sound like death is the end, it is not. We will all die someday. Get real!
Originally posted by checkbaiter As it stands now, before obamacare, a hospital cannot turn down anyone. Now it will just cost more.
I think your so called compassion is misplaced. Yes, I am a Christian, who believes in a free society.
You sound like death is the end, it is not. We will all die someday. Get real!
do you get decent healthcare / insurance on min wage without Obamacare or is their a gap?
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Originally posted by e4chris do you get decent healthcare / insurance on min wage without Obamacare or is their a gap?
At one time health, poverty, etc., was dealt with by the church and God would get the glory. Now the gov. gets the glory.
The gov. is/has replaced God for many.
Originally posted by RBHILL Well I was talking to an electrician about the OC not Orange County but Obamacare. He pays $4,000 a year now and he says when Obamacare starts he will pay $20,000 a year.
My understanding was that you could keep whatever existing insurance you had. Am I incorrect?