Originally posted by RJHinds Well, the Democratic Party is doing everything bad for this nation right now.
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"Right now" ?
I like the way you say "right now."
You've always believed that at any time I bet.
The extreme right and Tea Party only care about one thing, making sure that no one like Obama is ever considered again for US president. They only want to assure that they can pass on to all future generations that Obama was the worst president US ever had. And they are willing that the nation be damned in order to accomplish that legacy.
The extreme right and Tea Party only care about one thing, making sure that no one like Obama is ever considered again for US president. They only want to assure that they can pass on to all future generations that Obama was the worst presid ...[text shortened]... US ever had. And they are willing that the nation be damned in order to accomplish that legacy.
It is up to him if he is the worst President or not. I think he has a good start on it though. We shall have to wait and see.
Originally posted by RJHinds I am asserting that this Democratic President can't be trusted because of his lying.
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I think Obama is the best president you have had for decades and his drive for social justice and health for all is representative of the best parts of left of centre politics.
How you can make it a "spiritual" matter is beyond my comprehension, but then again, American popular politics is a sandbox of ill informed partisan irrationality and opinionated contempt.
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Originally posted by RJHinds It is up to him if he is the worst President or not. I think he has a good start on it though. We shall have to wait and see.
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No it is also to a great deal up to a sizable group of congressmen who have a knee jerk compulsion to always work against anything this president proposes to do.
They want to automatically go in the opposite direction no matter what Obama proposes. And then they complain about "We need leadership!"
No, they need a bit of "followship." Laws can be corrected and legislation can be improved when they work together.
Originally posted by sonship No it is also to a great deal up to a sizable group of congressmen who have a knee jerk compulsion to always work against anything this president proposes to do.
They want to automatically go in the opposite direction no matter what Obama proposes. And then they complain about "We need [b]leadership!"
No, they need a bit of "followship." Laws can be corrected and legislation can be improved when they work together.[/b]
President Obama said he would not negotiate with the Republicans and would veto any attempted changes to his Obamacare regardless if it needed changing or not. So we can't expect much cooperation with that kind of attitude from the President. Senate majority leader Harry Reid is no better.
Originally posted by RJHinds President Obama said he would not negotiate with the Republicans and would veto any attempted changes to his Obamacare regardless if it needed changing or not. So we can't expect much cooperation with that kind of attitude from the President. Senate majority leader Harry Reid is no better.
Originally posted by divegeester I think Obama is the best president you have had for decades and his drive for social justice and health for all is representative of the best parts of left of centre politics.
How you can make it a "spiritual" matter is beyond my comprehension, but then again, American popular politics is a sandbox of ill informed partisan irrationality and opinionated contempt.
Most everyone is for social justice and health. It is just that some of us believe Obama is going about it the wrong way. I don't believe social justice and health can be obtained under a welfare state that he is pushing which makes many people too dependent on the goverment that they will always vote for more government assistance.
Originally posted by RJHinds It looks like a disaster to me. That women said that she would have rather had 5 years instead of three to get it ready, but the President did not want to delay it like the Republicans suggested. So we have a website that does not work right, has low security, and upstart health services that are going bankrupt on government money because they are not gett ...[text shortened]... o it appears to me that a fitting name for it is an Obamanation of Desolation.
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Take it to debates, Spanky!
I'm sure you can find just your kind of people there, ignorant right-wing nutjobs.