Omnipotent, omniscient God

Originally posted by chappy1
The only things that God cannot do is to be something that goes agains his nature. For instance God cannot lie. God cannot be unholy. God cannot be evil. Everything and anything else he can do. Period.

And God can't do what's inherently impossible. You assume, by your own personal definition of omnipotent, that there are no impossibles. That might be wrong.

Originally posted by chappy1
The only things that God cannot do is to be something that goes agains his nature. For instance God cannot lie. God cannot be unholy. God cannot be evil. Everything and anything else he can do. Period.

Then by your very definition of omnipotent, God falls short of it, doesn't He?

You can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by chappy1
Omnipotent- having great or unlimited authority or power.

Interesting. Why did you totally ignore the first definition (having "great", but not necessarily unlimited, power) of the word?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Interesting. Why did you totally ignore the first definition (having "great", but not necessarily unlimited, power) of the word?

This is what I got, ok.

1.
almighty or infinite in power, as God.

2.
having very great or unlimited authority or power.

3.
an omnipotent being.

4.
the Omnipotent, God

om·nip·o·tent       (?m-n?p'?-t?nt)  Pronunciation Key 
adj.   Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.

Originally posted by chappy1
2. having very great or unlimited authority or power.

Note the word OR [the first occurrence] in this definition. It is not necessary to have unlimited power to be omnipotent.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Note the word [b]OR [the first occurrence] in this definition. It is not necessary to have unlimited power to be omnipotent.[/b]

of course it is necessary. omni means all. omni does not mean "a lot"

so an omnipotent being must be just that: omnipotent.


Can god create a rock that He cannot pick up? This is sufficient to consider God as almost omnipotent.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
of course it is necessary. omni means all. omni does not mean "a lot"

so an omnipotent being must be just that: omnipotent.


Can god create a rock that He cannot pick up? This is sufficient to consider God as almost omnipotent.

Re-read definition #2 please.