23 Dec '06 06:28>
Originally posted by Conrau KYou defined a person as "the thing which performs the action". I was simply following your definition through to its logical conclusion.
[b]"When I refer to "God", I am referring to God as a person."
Hey, you said God was a person, not me. I am merely going along with your definition.
You are not going along with my definition at all - which, mind you, is not really my definition. You said that the person isn't "the thing which performs the action". I really have no idea what you are ...[text shortened]... t negate free will. Imagine a world in which you didn't determine your own actions.[/b]
As I said before, an action performed within the universe cannot logically be performed outside of time. If this logic doesn't apply to God, then you open yourself up to all of the other logical impossibilities such as "can God make a rock that He cannot lift". If this logic applies to God, as He is incapable of logical impossibilities, then He must act within time and His actions could therefore be predetermined (and in fact are predetermined if He must remain omnibenevolent).
If I didn't determine my own actions, then I would have no free will. This backs up my point that predeterminancy and free will are mutually exclusive.