Originally posted by karoly aczel To determine where the aliens come from is not so important, I reckon.It is my contention that we must learn the accurate history of the Earth to go forward. Thats why there is so many different forms of obfuscation employed by various forces . To stop us knowing the truth. Generally speaking. For example did people walk the Earth when the dinosaurs wer ...[text shortened]... rth for much longer than currently thought. How long do you think humans have walked the planet?
I don't buy into your panspermia theory. Nor do I think scriptures are useful for obtaining an accurate version of history.
How long humans have been around depends on what you mean by 'human.' Early humans branched off from their common ancestor with the chimpanzee about 5 to 7 million years ago. The genus Homo emerged about 2 million years ago. And Homo sapiens originated about 200,000 years ago. So, no, humans did not walk on the earth with dinosaurs. At least not as we think of them. However, if we consider that birds may be descended from dinosaurs, then we are currently walking amongst their descendants.
Originally posted by rwingett I don't buy into your panspermia theory. Nor do I think scriptures are useful for obtaining an accurate version of history.
How long humans have been around depends on what you mean by 'human.' Early humans branched off from their common ancestor with the chimpanzee about 5 to 7 million years ago. The genus Homo emerged about 2 million years ago. And Ho ...[text shortened]... rds may be descended from dinosaurs, then we are currently walking amongst their descendants.
I disagree,my dear aethiest friend. Yes we need to determine what is meant by 'human'. I do think scriptures are important if interpretted correctly.
Do you at least agrree that we need to ascertain the true history of the planet to 'move forward'? Or does it not matter?
Originally posted by karoly aczel I disagree,my dear aethiest friend. Yes we need to determine what is meant by 'human'. I do think scriptures are important if interpretted correctly.
Do you at least agrree that we need to ascertain the true history of the planet to 'move forward'? Or does it not matter?
interpret scriptures correctly? Good luck with that.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'true history' of the planet. Unless you're implying that the standard scientific theories are all lies designed to cover up some 'truth.'
Originally posted by rwingett interpret scriptures correctly? Good luck with that.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'true history' of the planet. Unless you're implying that the standard scientific theories are all lies designed to cover up some 'truth.'
Yeah, your right,I may need some luck to interpret scriptures correctly. But it wont stop me from trying.
I think some scientific thoeries are false. I doubt they are deliberately trying to cover up anything. I just think they are wrong. Like for how many years humans have been around.
As always, thank you for your healthy skepticism. That kind of attitude is very important for an accurate assesment of the state of affairs.
Originally posted by karoly aczel (It implies that the Earth was seeded by 'aliens' and hence produced humans as we know them)
Panspermia suggests that some sort of proto-genetic material entered our environment via a passing comet or colliding meteor, mixing with elements already on earth, thereby creating the new molecular structures that eventually became "life". Where did you get the idea that Panspermia theory entails that "aliens" seeded the Earth? Been watching re-runs of the X-Files?
Originally posted by karoly aczel Has this one been discussed yet?
(It implies that the Earth was seeded by 'aliens' and hence produced humans as we know them)
In my way of thinkning rhis theory this does not preclude creation or evotution although in another way of thinking it could preclude both of them.
Phew!!!! I'm not expecting any great results with this thread but feel free to try me!
Originally posted by David C Panspermia suggests that some sort of proto-genetic material entered our environment via a passing comet or colliding meteor, mixing with elements already on earth, thereby creating the new molecular structures that eventually became "life". Where did you get the idea that Panspermia theory entails that "aliens" seeded the Earth? Been watching re-runs of the X-Files?
Never seen the X-files.
C'mon give me a bit more credit than that.
Originally posted by joe beyser If aliens didn't seed all life includings viruses, mosquitos,and monkeys, then how did it happen that humans and chimps DNA are so closely related?
Ok. One questione at a time. Human and chimp DNA are closely related, yes. But about 2% of it is different, right? Who's to say that 2% doesn't count for a lot? Now whats this got to do with mosquitoes ,viruses,etc.?
Originally posted by karoly aczel In a way , yes.
I believe there is an element of truth in both theories,though.
Sorry. Cant talk anymore tonight.
Okay, I see. I't not a theory of it's own merits then...?
I looked it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
Does this article describe your thoughts, or do you dispute any part of it? Of so, which part?
How about the "Objections to panspermia and exogenesis" part, do you agree or disagree?
Originally posted by karoly aczel Ok. One questione at a time. Human and chimp DNA are closely related, yes. But about 2% of it is different, right? Who's to say that 2% doesn't count for a lot? Now whats this got to do with mosquitoes ,viruses,etc.?
How did all life get seeded on earth? With Pansermia, is that only for humans or all life? I thought it was all life which would be viruses, bacteria, electric eels, and the other stuff. Is panspermia something like taking chimp DNA and putting in some modifications?