Originally posted by josephwits not a translation its a version of the original languages? EPIC FAIL
Man! You haven't a clue as to how or why I know anything at all.
First of all, the KJV isn't a translation. It is a version of the original languages.
Secondly, I have and can compare the KJV with at least a dozen other translations in mere moments.
And thirdly, as to your assertion that I, cannot know, you are most hypocritical.
If I can't know, than neither can you.
if you know, then why don't you tell us what method you used to compare the two translations in order for to arrive at the conclusion that one was accurate and one was corrupt.
comparing the KJV with other English translations is simply comparing a translation with a translation, it does nothing to prove that one translation is more accurate than another, for that, you need to refer to and understand the original text.
your other assertions of hypocrisy are typical of those devoid of reason.
So we shall ask you once again, how did you come to the conclusion that one translation was accurate and the other corrupt. Surely you must know?
Originally posted by sonshipyes it does, it states that Christ never even considered that he was equal to God.he never even considered himself equal to God and no amount of slithering around can negate the fact.The verse does [b]not say either of these two things which you imagine:
1.) Christ was not equal to God,
2.) Christ did not ever consider Himself equal to God.
It says:
1.) Christ being equal with God,
2.) Did not co ...[text shortened]... self humbling He underwent in His incarnation, life and obedience unto death by crucifixion.[/b]
-Removed-What is ridiculous is the abject ignorance displayed in your post.
If you are incapable of understanding the truth of the Godhead as it is taught by the scriptures you need to go back to The Word and read it without the commentaries of a group of men who's teachings you just happen to agree with.
The doctrine of the Godhead is clearly taught in the scriptures to us by the Holy Spirit.
Originally posted by josephwwhich Biblical word are you translating as Godhead?
What is ridiculous is the abject ignorance displayed in your post.
If you are incapable of understanding the truth of the Godhead as it is taught by the scriptures you need to go back to The Word and read it without the commentaries of a group of men who's teachings you just happen to agree with.
The doctrine of the Godhead is clearly taught in the scriptures to us by the Holy Spirit.
yes it does, it states that Christ never even considered that he was equal to God.
No it doesn't. It claims that though He was equal with God He was able to humble Himself and empty Himself not of the divine nature but of the splendid glory and divine dignity. He became an obedient slave even unto death.
Besides, Christ certainly considered Himself God when He told the vehement Jews that before Abraham came into existence He was the "I AM" (John 8:58).
They understood exactly what He was saying and like you people down at the kingdom hall, were incensed about it. So they sought to execute Him on the spot for blasphemy:
"Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came into being I am.
So they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple."
Originally posted by sonshipwhat is it about, 'he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely that he should be equal to God', that you fail to understand, your insistence on putting emphasis on a personal pronoun and the verb 'to be', is ludicrous.yes it does, it states that Christ never even considered that he was equal to God.
No it doesn't. It claims that though He was equal with God He was able to humble Himself and empty Himself not of the divine nature but of the splendid glory and divine dignity. He became an obedient slave even unto death.
Besides, Christ certainly co ...[text shortened]... ey picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple." [/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobie.." 'he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely that he should be equal to God',"...
what is it about, 'he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely that he should be equal to God', that you fail to understand, your insistence on putting emphasis on a personal pronoun and the verb 'to be', is ludicrous.
Why can't you understand that that quote isn't from The Word of God? It's from a corrupt translation.
You behave quite typically robbie. Like every other JW I've ever encountered. If you ever do a study of the origin and transmission of scripture through time you'll learn the truth. Instead it is quite obvious that everything you believe and purport to believe comes from the mind of men who have perverted The Word of God.
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Originally posted by josephwso you keep telling us yet you somehow seem unable to tell us how you came to that conclusion. Do you often make statements that you cannot substantiate? So do tell us how you came to the conclusion that the translation is corrupt or are you simply intent to tell others about how little they are supposed to know when in fact it appears that you are more ignorant of the Bible than the meanest medieval illiterate monk.
[b].." 'he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely that he should be equal to God',"...
Why can't you understand that that quote isn't from The Word of God? It's from a corrupt translation.
You behave quite typically robbie. Like every other JW I've ever encountered. If you ever do a study of the origin and transmission of scripture through time e and purport to believe comes from the mind of men who have perverted The Word of God.[/b]
-Removed-A strawman argument again. I said nothing about 3 people in one person. That sounds like someone with a multiple personality disorder.
In genesis the Hebrew word for "God" is in the plural and God says us and our when referring to himself, which are plural pronouns. So the ONE must be a plural one.
Jesus said, "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me...
“If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you."
John 14:11,15-17 NKJV)
Is Jesus not talking about the Holy Spirit here?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm no different from you on that score robbie. The thing is is that it's just too big a thing to do it credit in this forum.
so you keep telling is yet you somehow seem unable to tell us how you came to that conclusion. Do you often make statements that you cannot substantiate?
The thing for you to do is meet the challenge on your own turf. I have already done that which you need to do, and that is to make a courageous effort to part from the dictates of men and ask the tough questions.
When you do you'll be like me. Free, and absolutely confident you have as a present possession eternal life.
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Originally posted by josephwso why dont you tell us how you came to the conclusion that our text is corrupt, you have said it, should it not be easy for you to tell us your methodology or will you continue simply to tell what appear to be nothing more than the projection of a prejudiced and ignorant mind, so once again, fifth time asking, how did you come to the conclusion that the verse is corrupt?
I'm no different from you on that score robbie. The thing is is that it's just too big a thing to do it credit in this forum.
The thing for you to do is meet the challenge on your own turf. I have already done that which you need to do, and that is to make a courageous effort to part from the dictates of men and ask the tough questions.
When you do yo ...[text shortened]... 'll be like me. Free, and absolutely confident you have as a present possession eternal life.
sorry you want me also to make statements that i cannot substantiate, no thanks, id rather be dead than an ignoramus.