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05 Dec 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI suggest the term "eternity" for what is other than [t...].
[b][t...] brackets = limited, finite as opposed to neverending or infinite. [/b]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity
The existence of a god would include existence in (or during or at) [t...] but not separately than its existence in E. This is more or less because [t...] has existence in or at (but not during) E. It is not during E, because E has no duration, no passage of time.
"While in the popular mind, eternity (or foreverness) often simply means existence for a limitless amount of time, many have used it to refer to a timeless existence altogether outside time. By contrast, infinite temporal existence is then called sempiternity. Something eternal exists outside time; by contrast, something sempiternal exists throughout an infinite time. Sempiternity is also known as everlastingness.[1]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity
05 Dec 11
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo the short length of t, time seems to indicate the existence of the created
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
t = time.
[t...] brackets = limited, finite as opposed to neverending or infinite.
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[b]EP) = Eternity Past[/b]
heavens and earth is very short in comparison to all eternity, even though it
may seem very long to our extremely short life within time. Is that the idea
of the graph?
05 Dec 11
Originally posted by RJHindsThe creation of the heavens and earth (as well as the creation of angelic beings) took place well before and was already
So the short length of t, time seems to indicate the existence of the created
heavens and earth isvery short in comparison to all eternity, even though it
may seemvery long to our extremely short life within time. Is that the idea
of the the graph?
in place at the creation of Adam and Eve in the Garden when God wound the big clock on the wall and started it ticking.
05 Dec 11
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyMaybe, I do not understand. Are you saying the heavens and the earth
The creation of the heavens and earth (as well as the creation of angelic beings) took place well before and was already
in place at the creation of Adam and Eve in the Garden when God wound the big clock on the wall and started it ticking.
were created before time began instead of at the beginning of time?
05 Dec 11
Originally posted by JS357The problem with things that are eternal as in 'outside of time' is that they are static as far as we are concerned. God as described in most religions is not static and is therefore at least in part, not eternal.
The existence of a god would include existence in (or during or at) [t...] but not separately than its existence in E. This is more or less because [t...] has existence in or at (but not during) E. It is not during E, because E has no duration, no passage of time.
05 Dec 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe holy Bible says God does not change. What does that mean to you?
The problem with things that are eternal as in 'outside of time' is that they are static as far as we are concerned. God as described in most religions is not static and is therefore at least in part, not eternal.
05 Dec 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe problem with things that are eternal as in 'outside of time' is that they are static as far as WE are concerned. God as described in most religions is not static and is therefore at least in part, not eternal.
The problem with things that are eternal as in 'outside of time' is that they are static as far as we are concerned. God as described in most religions is not static and is therefore at least in part, not eternal.