Pray for the success of atheism

Originally posted by dj2becker
There obviously has to be a universal standard, else everyones view is equally valid. You obviously believe that your view is more correct than Kelly's but that would require a universal standard. But you have a problem proving that standard because because you have no God figure to back up your proposed standard. So there's your problem.

We discussed this before. I see no point in discussing it again.

Originally posted by dj2becker
There obviously has to be a universal standard, else everyones view is equally valid. You obviously believe that your view is more correct than Kelly's but that would require a universal standard. But you have a problem proving that standard because because you have no God figure to back up your proposed standard. So there's your problem.

Why are you answering for Kelly? Why not let HIM do the talking?

Originally posted by FMF
We discussed this before. I see no point in discussing it again.

Do you think your view is correct and Kelly's view is wrong? Yes or No?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Why are you answering for Kelly? Why not let HIM do the talking?

I am not answering for Kelly. I speak for myself.

Originally posted by dj2becker
I am not answering for Kelly. I speak for myself.

Barely.

Originally posted by FMF
Maybe, if it suits corporate Christianity, such "visions" could be written up and included in the Biblical canon?

You do know all over the world right now that Jesus is giving visions to Muslims right?

Originally posted by RBHILL
You do know all over the world right now that Jesus is giving visions to Muslims right?

You mean Christian propaganda is trying to sell to Muslim propaganda?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Do you think your view is correct and Kelly's view is wrong? Yes or No?

You have attempted to discuss this with me in this kind of way before. I see no point in you attempting to do so again.

Originally posted by dj2becker
There obviously has to be a universal standard, else everyones view is equally valid. You obviously believe that your view is more correct than Kelly's but that would require a universal standard. But you have a problem proving that standard because because you have no God figure to back up your proposed standard. So there's your problem.

You have tried to argue this point before, it is wrong. Morality is governed by consensus, it has ever been so.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
You have tried to argue this point before, it is wrong. Morality is governed by consensus, it has ever been so.

So if two societies have contradictory morals are they both right?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
You have tried to argue this point before, it is wrong. Morality is governed by consensus, it has ever been so.

Consensus of whom?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Consensus of whom?

People?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
People?

Yep and if people agree on something then that makes it right?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Yep and if people agree on something then that makes it right?

Yep, had that conversation already.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Yep, had that conversation already.

Yep, so when the Nazis agreed on something it was also right. Sounds legit. 🙄