06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI don't agree.
If none of our opinions have the possibility of being factual you are wasting your time here.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI don't think sharing my opinions is a waste of time.
If you think that none of our opinions can be factual it is a complete waste of time.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThis post is possibly the curtain you hide behind flapping open a bit; you read the bible and form your opinions from what you interpret as being said within it and go on to conclude that those opinions are therefore absolutes.
If you think that none of our opinions can be factual it is a complete waste of time.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @fmfDepends on whether their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions take precedence over their religious text or not. If not, they will regard their text as an objective standard.
dj2becker, are the moral stances of all adherents to all religions [by which I mean those that stipulate moral codes] "objective"?
Originally posted by @divegeesterJesus said love your neighbour as you love yourself. Do you regard this as factual information or simply a subjective opinion?
This post is possibly the curtain you hide behind flapping open a bit; you read the bible and form your opinions from what you interpret as being said within it and go on to conclude that those opinions are therefore absolutes.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIf I agree that Jesus telling people to love their neighbour is an objective fact, will you then conflate it to infer that all your opinions about the bible are objective facts?
Jesus said love your neighbour as you love yourself. Do you regard this as factual information or simply a subjective opinion?
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterYour dodge is noted. Do you regard the words of Jesus to constitute universal truth or do they merely reflect his subjective opinion?
If I agree that Jesus telling people to love their neighbour is an objective fact, will you then conflate it to infer that all your opinions about the bible are objective facts?
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerOk let me be clear.
Your dodge is noted. Do you regard the words of Jesus to constitute universal truth or do they merely reflect his subjective opinion?
I regard Jesus Christ to be my lord and saviour and his words to be truth. I regard you to be a slippery lying weasel.
Conflate that.
06 Nov 17
FMF: dj2becker, are the moral stances of all adherents to all religions [by which I mean those that stipulate moral codes] "objective"?I am asking YOU what YOU would regard as "objective". If adherents to any or all other religions [i.e. other than your own] assert that their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions do not take precedence over their religious text ~ as you do about the religious text you personally favour ~ would you regard whatever those religionists' morals and opinions as being "objective"?
Originally posted by @dj2becker
Depends on whether their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions take precedence over their religious text or not. If not, they will regard their text as an objective standard.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhere did I say this? Can you quote the post? Was it on this thread? Second time of asking.
If you don't believe that any opinion can be factual ...
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterDo you regard the words of Jesus to be objectively true or only subjective?
Ok let me be clear.
I regard Jesus Christ to be my lord and saviour and his words to be truth. I regard you to be a slippery lying weasel.
Conflate that.
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhats the difference?
Do you regard the words of Jesus to be objectively true or only subjective?
06 Nov 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterA subjective truth is a truth based off of a person's perspective, feelings, or opinions not on a fact.
Whats the difference?
Objective means the state or quality of being true or factual.