Premise: Objective morals do not exist

Premise: Objective morals do not exist

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If none of our opinions have the possibility of being factual you are wasting your time here.
I don't agree.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you think that none of our opinions can be factual it is a complete waste of time.
I don't think sharing my opinions is a waste of time.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you think that none of our opinions can be factual it is a complete waste of time.
This post is possibly the curtain you hide behind flapping open a bit; you read the bible and form your opinions from what you interpret as being said within it and go on to conclude that those opinions are therefore absolutes.

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Originally posted by @fmf
dj2becker, are the moral stances of all adherents to all religions [by which I mean those that stipulate moral codes] "objective"?
Depends on whether their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions take precedence over their religious text or not. If not, they will regard their text as an objective standard.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I don't agree.
Is that a fact?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
This post is possibly the curtain you hide behind flapping open a bit; you read the bible and form your opinions from what you interpret as being said within it and go on to conclude that those opinions are therefore absolutes.
Jesus said love your neighbour as you love yourself. Do you regard this as factual information or simply a subjective opinion?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Jesus said love your neighbour as you love yourself. Do you regard this as factual information or simply a subjective opinion?
If I agree that Jesus telling people to love their neighbour is an objective fact, will you then conflate it to infer that all your opinions about the bible are objective facts?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
If I agree that Jesus telling people to love their neighbour is an objective fact, will you then conflate it to infer that all your opinions about the bible are objective facts?
Your dodge is noted. Do you regard the words of Jesus to constitute universal truth or do they merely reflect his subjective opinion?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Your dodge is noted. Do you regard the words of Jesus to constitute universal truth or do they merely reflect his subjective opinion?
Ok let me be clear.

I regard Jesus Christ to be my lord and saviour and his words to be truth. I regard you to be a slippery lying weasel.

Conflate that.

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FMF: dj2becker, are the moral stances of all adherents to all religions [by which I mean those that stipulate moral codes] "objective"?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Depends on whether their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions take precedence over their religious text or not. If not, they will regard their text as an objective standard.
I am asking YOU what YOU would regard as "objective". If adherents to any or all other religions [i.e. other than your own] assert that their personal feelings, tastes, or opinions do not take precedence over their religious text ~ as you do about the religious text you personally favour ~ would you regard whatever those religionists' morals and opinions as being "objective"?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you don't believe that any opinion can be factual ...
Where did I say this? Can you quote the post? Was it on this thread? Second time of asking.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Ok let me be clear.

I regard Jesus Christ to be my lord and saviour and his words to be truth. I regard you to be a slippery lying weasel.

Conflate that.
Do you regard the words of Jesus to be objectively true or only subjective?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you regard the words of Jesus to be objectively true or only subjective?
Whats the difference?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Where did I say this? Can you quote the post? Was it on this thread? Second time of asking.
Are your opinions factual or not? You can't seem to make up your mind.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Whats the difference?
A subjective truth is a truth based off of a person's perspective, feelings, or opinions not on a fact.

Objective means the state or quality of being true or factual.