1. Standard memberProper Knob
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    03 Dec '11 20:23
    It should also be noted that a lot of Meyers Signature in the Cell is now incorrect, the science has moved on.

    As evolutionary biologist and Christian Darrel Falk explains in his review of Meyers book -

    At the time of writing Signature of the Cell, Dr. Meyer correctly concluded that no RNA molecule had ever been evolved in a test tube which could do more than join two building blocks together. However, while the book was in press, Gerald Joyce and Tracey Lincoln published an article in Science in which they demonstrated that evolved-RNA can take on a second function, the all-important replication activity. In just 30 hours their collection of RNA molecules had grown 100 million times bigger through a replication process carried out exclusively by evolved RNA molecules. So another dead-end pronouncement by Meyer was breached even while the book was in press.


    http://biologos.org/blog/signature-in-the-cell/
  2. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    03 Dec '11 21:06
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    "Modern science ... finds its origins in Christianity."

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/science_origin.html
    Hippocrates - no RJH not the boxes they ship hippopotamuses in - known widely as the "Father of Western Medicine lived about 400 years before Christ.

    Heard of him?

    Hippocratic Oath? - ring any bells?
  3. Standard memberRJHinds
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    04 Dec '11 04:29
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Hippocrates - no RJH not the boxes they ship hippopotamuses in - known widely as the "Father of Western Medicine lived about 400 years before Christ.

    Heard of him?

    Hippocratic Oath? - ring any bells?
    Hippocrates was no scientist. He was more like an Indian medicine man.
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    04 Dec '11 14:51
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Hippocrates was no scientist. He was more like an Indian medicine man.
    Nobody had invented the scientific method yet.

    However we are not talking about who was the first scientist, but where the origins of science lie.

    And the origins of science lie with the people who came up with the ideas that came together to become science.

    And the Greeks (and then Romans) did a lot of the groundwork.
    But the origins also lie in other societies with through the ages ideas coming from India and the east, and from
    Islamic countries (particularly mathematics the language of science) and only recently (historically speaking) did
    the west start building on these ideas and take the lead in the development of science.
  5. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Dec '11 20:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    "Modern science ... finds its origins in Christianity."

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/science_origin.html
    Tried to read the link but gave up after "Egyptian-Mayan astrological South"

    What?!?
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