Originally posted by dj2becker
COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) If I say something does not have a cause, it has no cause.
(2) I say the universe has no cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has no cause.
(4) Therefore, God does not exist.
ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) I cannot conceive a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
...[text shortened]... in God! I do not I do not I do not I DO NOT believe in God!
(2) Therefore, God does not exist.
COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) If I say something does not have a cause, it has no cause.
-on what authority does what you (a mere mortal) say become reality
(2) I say the universe has no cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has no cause.
(4) Therefore, God does not exist.
ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) I cannot conceive a perfect God.
-God conceived you, he's more than you are, so the creation cannot fanthom it's creators; heck you'll be lucky enough to conceive a minutely small part of him, after studying him for a life-time.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence
-how do you determine that "the missing quality" is existence, and not one of the other ones. because to have missing qualities means you exist is just that you don't have all of the perfect qualities, and by the way, he is perfect, cause the bible says; "Taste and see that God is good.".
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not necessary, therefore God must be unnecessary.
not necessary for what end???
Genesis 6:3
Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."'
To live longer than that you will need His Spirit to content with you for longer, and that is only possible if God is necessary.
My own view directed to you is this, you are like a child, who does not know what it takes to stay alive, and does not know the container they're in (of family, home, study-provisions etc) necessary to be made so that you can exist. But as time goes by you and you get your own kids, you come to love your parents for who they are because you now know that "Heck they were necessary".
Now as man, we shall never be parents, but always children of God, so we will never ever know what it actually takes/necessitates to have a thriving human race living on a planet. All it takes is one big astroid the size of the sun that whams right into the earth and blows us away. but for all these millions of years, they have all been diverted.
Think out of the box, not just within it.
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(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) Check out the creationists. Aren't they simple?
(2) No God could have made them so simple.
-I assume that is your own opinion, anyway let me let you in on a little secret. The strong are not the arrogant and brash, it is the meek that are strong. Anybody can decide to force their will on somebody, but it takes strength to hold your horses, and do what is right, even though all your innards are telling you to wrench his soul out of him. That is what true strength and character is.
A lot like our God, whom david asked in Psalm 8:4
"what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?" but instead of just wiping out the nuisance of the human race, he re-strains himself.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that bat ugly?
-beauty is in the eye of the beholder, relative to a bat man is ugly, and relative to a bat, a bat is beautiful. Can you prescribe to a bat what is beauty???
(2) No God could have made it so grotesque.
-The definition of grotesque is a mind-set ingrained within you, and differs from culture to culture, there are many things I call OK, and you call grotesque, and besides that, how does our view of the world match up with the creators view. If it's beauty lies not in it's looks but elsewhere, or does it mean that every ugly person on earth should be shot, because they were not created by God somebody else must have made them. Beauty lies in the whole not in the parts my friend. A typical example look at the most beautifull woman you can find, after you find her, lift up her skirt, she will have one of the not so beautifull features on her, but heck who cares.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
ARGUMENT FROM EVOLUTION
(1) If creation is false, then evolution is true, and therefore God does not exist.
-automatically?? or could they both be wrong??, and what happens when evolution is false, is creation true. Anyways if evolution is true, let it explain the source of all the physical matter and particles that then combined themselves together to form a human being or a rock, or the neighbours dog?. And howcome if all came from the same "goo", they suddenly can't interbreed anymore.
(2) Creation can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable
-pretty shallow reasons if you ask me, just because you lack understanding of the innards of a computer, the computer automatically ceases to be true and hence vanishes and ceases to exist?? Your comfort is irrelevant to truth, cause a truth that bends with feeling is usually a lie.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
-have you ever heard of free will. God is so good, that he gave man free will as God repeated over and over again through moses, "I have placed before you both life and death, choose life so that you and your descendants may live." If you choose death it is your will.
Anyways let me tell you a little secret about how special we as human beings are. We are one of the few creatures of God, that have a COMPLETELY free will. No spirit has authority over man, and man has no authority over another man, except the authority You give to another man or spirit over your life. That's how free you are.
(2) I don't believe in God.
-by choice
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL
(1) I DO NOT believe in God! I DO NOT believe in God! I do not I do not I do not I DO NOT believe in God!
-you choose
(2) Therefore, God does not exist.
-and unless you choose differently death shall be your reward, and you go straight to the pit of hell. hahaaa