An old Christian friend of mine used to say that the groove in celery sticks specifically designed to accommodate soft cheese was proof for the existence of God.
That is as powerful and profound as any argument I have read in this forum.
When all around us is such beauty and wonderment ... and everything is designed for us! Its hard NOT to believe in a deity.
We do truly live in a wonderful world.
BUT
(Creationists head for your bunkers)
The World was NOT made for us.
We were made for the World.
Its called Natural Selection and its still WONDERFUL and it doesnt contradict the existence of your gods.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 Its called Natural Selection and its still WONDERFUL and it doesnt contradict the existence of your gods.
Yes it most certainly does contradict the existence of my God if my God specifically made the world and its life forms without the use of Natural Selection.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 An old Christian friend of mine used to say that the groove in celery sticks specifically designed to accommodate soft cheese was proof for the existence of God.
That is as powerful and profound as any argument I have read in this forum.
When all around us is such beauty and wonderment ... and everything is designed for us! Its hard NOT to believe i ...[text shortened]... l Selection and its still WONDERFUL and it doesnt contradict the existence of your gods.
AMEN
there is a deep wisdom in what you have posted. Christians far too often feel like the world was made for them. Yet clearly the world and its inhabitants were made for The creators pleasure, whether it happened 5-10k Years ago, or billions
Originally posted by wolfgang59 An old Christian friend of mine used to say that the groove in celery sticks specifically designed to accommodate soft cheese was proof for the existence of God.
That is as powerful and profound as any argument I have read in this forum.
When all around us is such beauty and wonderment ... and everything is designed for us! Its hard NOT to believe i ...[text shortened]... l Selection and its still WONDERFUL and it doesnt contradict the existence of your gods.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 Dont be daft; I can name half a dozen:
Apollo, Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Horus, The Hoff
The Hoff? You talking "Knight Rider" fame?
But seriously,daniel is right there is only one God and because of the annoying fact that by including EVERYTHING as part of "Himself" , nothing can really be said of this "oneness" and hence it makes me think forget the whole "One" thing and go with "Zero" instead.
God is zero. There. much bettteršµ
Originally posted by wolfgang59 An old Christian friend of mine used to say that the groove in celery sticks specifically designed to accommodate soft cheese was proof for the existence of God.
That is as powerful and profound as any argument I have read in this forum.
When all around us is such beauty and wonderment ... and everything is designed for us! Its hard NOT to believe i ...[text shortened]... l Selection and its still WONDERFUL and it doesnt contradict the existence of your gods.
AMEN
If god designed the grooves in celery sticks then he also designed viruses, ringworm, and all the other nasty stuff of the world. You can't just give god credit for all the good stuff and let him off the hook for all the bad.
Originally posted by rwingett If god designed the grooves in celery sticks then he also designed viruses, ringworm, and all the other nasty stuff of the world. You can't just give god credit for all the good stuff and let him off the hook for all the bad.
Before the fall of man there were no "bad" things, so really it's man's fault, but even these things are not "bad" in themselves because they cannot sin, only those that have free will can really be "bad"
Originally posted by daniel58 Before the fall of man there were no "bad" things, so really it's man's fault, but even these things are not "bad" in themselves because they cannot sin, only those that have free will can really be "bad"
Originally posted by rwingett What?!? That's rubbish. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
I do no what I'm talking about, the first poster cheese fits in the creases in the celery that's proof of God's love for us, you said but God made bad things too, I said God didn't make "bad" things, he made things, and they're "bad" because of man's fall
Originally posted by daniel58 I do no what I'm talking about, the first poster cheese fits in the creases in the celery that's proof of God's love for us, you said but God made bad things too, I said God didn't make "bad" things, he made things, and they're "bad" because of man's fall
"He" made things and we made them "good" or "bad". Is that what you mean by "mans fall"?