Originally posted by Captain Strange All religions have a version of hell.
They usually have a trinity as well God,mother son.
That goes back to ancient Egypt and Horace.
Horace? lol...
Who was this Horace? And did he have permission from his mum to publish this idea?
Hell is mentioned in Deuteronomy, 2 Samuel, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, Habakkuk, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, James, 2 Peter, and Revelation.
Okay; but apart from Deuteronomy, 2 Samuel, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, Habakkuk, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, James, 2 Peter, and Revelation,......where is hell mentioned in the bible?
Hell is mentioned in Deuteronomy, 2 Samuel, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Jonah, Habakkuk, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, James, 2 Peter, and Revelation.
Do they use the word "Hell" or some other phrase like "the Pit"? My reason for asking is that Hell was Loki's daughter in Germanic mythology and it's pretty unlikely the Bible writers would have been using that word. They would have heard of Hades from the Greeks, but not Hell.
Originally posted by DeepThought Do they use the word "Hell" or some other phrase like "the Pit"? My reason for asking is that Hell was Loki's daughter in Germanic mythology and it's pretty unlikely the Bible writers would have been using that word. They would have heard of Hades from the Greeks, but not Hell.
Isn't that just semantics? They understand the meaning of hell regardless of the nomenclature. A place where humans who are 'bad' go to be punished after they die.
Just think about that. We live in a universe with trillions of stars, billions of galaxies and there have to be civilizations other than human in all that so here we have this place of punishment just for humans. Right. It could happen. Sure, and I have a GREAT bridge for sale....
Maybe then, there are thousands of separate hell places, one for each species. At least that would be fair🙂
Originally posted by sonhouse Isn't that just semantics? They understand the meaning of hell regardless of the nomenclature. A place where humans who are 'bad' go to be punished after they die.
Just think about that. We live in a universe with trillions of stars, billions of galaxies and there have to be civilizations other than human in all that so here we have this place of punishm ...[text shortened]... there are thousands of separate hell places, one for each species. At least that would be fair🙂
If aliens are around they wont be fallen creatures like man.
At least that will be the answer from the born again devil dodgers.
Originally posted by Captain Strange If aliens are around they wont be fallen creatures like man.
At least that will be the answer from the born again devil dodgers.
So aliens are superior BECAUSE they are aliens? I bet there are thousands of civilizations out there in the universe that offed themselves in warfare with worse weapons than even we have now, planet busters and such, star nova guns....
Originally posted by sonhouse So aliens are superior BECAUSE they are aliens? I bet there are thousands of civilizations out there in the universe that offed themselves in warfare with worse weapons than even we have now, planet busters and such, star nova guns....
Yes I am sure that is true but our priests popes cardinals etc. will have to make new stuff up.
Our old stuff will not work on them.
Originally posted by DeepThought Do they use the word "Hell" or some other phrase like "the Pit"? My reason for asking is that Hell was Loki's daughter in Germanic mythology and it's pretty unlikely the Bible writers would have been using that word. They would have heard of Hades from the Greeks, but not Hell.
Exactly. They talked about Hades, Sheol and Gehenna.
Originally posted by sonhouse Isn't that just semantics? They understand the meaning of hell regardless of the nomenclature. A place where humans who are 'bad' go to be punished after they die.
Just think about that. We live in a universe with trillions of stars, billions of galaxies and there have to be civilizations other than human in all that so here we have this place of punishm ...[text shortened]... there are thousands of separate hell places, one for each species. At least that would be fair🙂
The naming matters. Each different name conveyed a different conception of the afterlife for people not getting into the Elysian Fields. In the Germanic Pagan conception the place itself wasn't that bad, only Nifhel was bad, which was the lowest level reserved for murders, philanderers, and oath-breakers. So those who didn't get into heaven didn't have an eternity of suffering to look forward to just for not being quite good enough. The Christian conception of Hell is a much worse place and you either get paradise or eternal torment, it's quite dualist. I'm wondering if the conception of Hell the Bible writers had is different from the conception of Hell in Dante, for example, and if that is detectable by the language they were using.
13 Oct '15 07:23
Prove hell exists. Without the bible.
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