Originally posted by wolfgang59
I'm an atheist so I dont plan on talking to God about anything!
thank you to everyone who replied - but I'm none the wiser; God has everything planned(?) including the crucifiction from day 1 !?!
If everything is planned that surely means no free-will. It also means God has no decisiions to make since He did all his planning before hand. Just doesnt stack-up.
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I'm an atheist so I dont plan on talking to God about anything!
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That is of course your perogative. But the truth is ultimately a living Person.
You appear to be searching for the truth, or at least you want me to believe you are searching for the truth.
I telling you honestly, the end of that path is a living Person. But you'resaying "I don't want any relationship" with a living Person - Christ.
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God has everything planned(?) including the crucifiction from day 1 !?!
If everything is planned that surely means no free-will.
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How do you know that ?
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It also means God has no decisiions to make since He did all his planning before hand. Just doesnt stack-up.
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That is an old philosophical debate which I don't think 2000 years of debating has settled - Does God's foreknowledge mean there is no free will ?
Any way, I lived without Christ and I met Christ. I never felt any sense or coercion.
In this modern age when science talks about possible time travel and bent space and singularities without mass and strings which are so small you would need an atom smasher the size of the whole galaxy to munipulate them ... I mean with quite difficult concepts to get my mind around, I am less bothered by the tension between and eternal God's foreknowledge, predestination, and His creature's free will.
What I mean is science has shown us that the universe may be queerer than we can imagine. So I can appreciate that the revelation of the Bible contains aspects of God and His purpose which seem queerer than I can imagine.