Question for Atheists

Originally posted by twhitehead
Because of the amount of evidence for it and the lack of evidence against it. Why?

Reproducible evidence?

Originally posted by dj2becker
You mean [b]absolutely morally correct?[/b]

Sure.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
This has [b]absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.[/b]

I thought the topic was "Question for Atheists".

Originally posted by jaywill
I thought the topic was "Question for Atheists".

Yes. Question. Not Questions. The opening post was on whether or not morals are absolute, and that has nothing to do with whether a factual statement is true or not.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Yes. Question. Not Question[b]s. The opening post was on whether or not morals are absolute, and that has nothing to do with whether a factual statement is true or not.[/b]

Oh. Where was your answer?

Originally posted by jaywill
Oh. Where was your answer?

About a dozen pages back.

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, statements about facts are true or not. We could however call a fact a truth, but that is a result of the flexibility of the English language.

In English 'fact' can mean an actual fact or a statement about fact so it gets rather confusing.

No, statements about facts are true or not.

So if the statements about the facts are true does not mean the facts are also true?

Originally posted by Starrman
No. Facts, as opposed to relations of ideas in a Humean sense, are observable, contingent, emprircal entities. As such they are only confirmed by probability and repetition. As far as I am concerned, the perseverence of factual knowledge is inductive in basis and as such is relative to experience.

Is reality aboslutely real?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Sure.

Would you mind explaining why this is the case?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Is reality aboslutely real?

What a stupid question. Do they actually teach you this crud, or are you thinking for yourself?

What is reality and what is real are one and the same thing, idiot.

I guess that would depend on if you believe murder is absolutely wrong. In order for something to be absolutely wrong, there would have to be a higher order or law stating so. I can't think of any higher order or law that atheists belive in. I am not a self proclaimed atheist but I would think an atheist would adhere to a more relativistic approach to a deviant act. That is he would interpret circumstances such as: does it go against societies norms (in the case of murder yes), was there a reaction to it (becasue some atheists would believe if nobody finds out, then its not wrong), or if someone were to find out, then would it be considered wrong. I think an atheist would think about these things in order to determine wrongness so no, a true atheist does not think murder is absolutely wrong.

Originally posted by Starrman
What a stupid question. Do they actually teach you this crud, or are you thinking for yourself?

What is reality and what is real are one and the same thing, idiot.

And you are absolutely 100% sure about, suddenly?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Would you mind explaining why this is the case?

OK. Would God ever command somebody to do something immoral?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
OK. Would God ever command somebody to do something immoral?

When is something judged to be immoral?

Originally posted by dj2becker
When is something judged to be immoral?

Are you saying that nothing is immoral, that you don't know what immoral is,
or that we can't know what is immoral?