1. Standard memberdj2becker
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    18 Feb '07 20:021 edit
    Within an Atheistic framework, would it be absolutely wrong at any time to murder another human being? If so, why?
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    18 Feb '07 20:33
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Within an Atheistic framework, would it be [b]absolutely wrong at any time to murder another human being? If so, why?[/b]
    Would you want someone to murder you? So why do it to someone else?
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    18 Feb '07 20:351 edit
    Originally posted by Ian68
    Would you want someone to murder you? So why do it to someone else?
    Is it absolutely wrong to murder someone?

    Hint: This is a yes/no question...
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    18 Feb '07 20:42
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Is it [b]absolutely wrong to murder someone?[/b]
    Murder is the crime of unlawfully killing someone. Laws are imperfect. Thus, murder is not always wrong.
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    18 Feb '07 20:48
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Murder is the crime of unlawfully killing someone. Laws are imperfect. Thus, murder is not always wrong.
    So is the unlawful premeditated killing of an innocent human being absolutely wrong?
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    18 Feb '07 20:531 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    So is the unlawful premeditated killing of an innocent human being [b]absolutely wrong?[/b]
    Killing an innocent human person is always wrong. However, by adding the word 'innocent', you've taken the scenario out of the courtroom and on to philosophical grounds.
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    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Killing an innocent human being is always wrong. However, by adding the word 'innocent', you've taken the scenario out of the courtroom and on to philosophical grounds.
    So you believe that absolute right and wrong exists?

    Are you an atheist?
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    18 Feb '07 20:58
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    So you believe that absolute right and wrong exists?

    Are you an atheist?
    Yes.

    No. Agnostic.
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    18 Feb '07 21:02
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Yes.

    No. Agnostic.
    No

    no agnostic
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    18 Feb '07 21:05
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Yes.

    No. Agnostic.
    The thread was aimed at atheists, but never mind...

    So you believe that absolute right and wrong exists, fine. What absolute basis (or absolute point of reference) do you use to differentiate between right and wrong or (good and evil)?
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    18 Feb '07 21:05
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Within an Atheistic framework, would it be [b]absolutely wrong at any time to murder another human being? If so, why?[/b]
    I would say no, it isn't always absolutely wrong, I can imagine some extremely unlikely scenarios for when murder is justified. However, most of the time I would say that it is definitely wrong.
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    18 Feb '07 21:07
    Originally posted by Bad wolf
    I would say no, it isn't always absolutely wrong, I can imagine some extremely unlikely scenarios for when murder is justified. However, most of the time I would say that it is definitely wrong.
    So is the unlawful premeditated killing of an innocent human being absolutely wrong?
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    18 Feb '07 21:18
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    So is the unlawful premeditated killing of an innocent human being absolutely wrong?
    Generally yes, but I guess there could be exceptions, so I don't think it is absolutely wrong. Laws can be wrong and unjustified and I doubt they could be justifiably applied to every possible scenario conceivable.
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    18 Feb '07 21:20
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    The thread was aimed at atheists, but never mind...

    So you believe that absolute right and wrong exists, fine. What absolute basis (or absolute point of reference) do you use to differentiate between right and wrong or (good and evil)?
    Natural law. If it is permissible to kill innocent human persons, then none of us is safe. If we're not safe, we can't prosper as a species. Since we are clearly designed to care for each other and to procreate, we are acting against our own nature by killing innocent persons.
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    18 Feb '07 21:22
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Within an Atheistic framework, would it be [b]absolutely wrong at any time to murder another human being? If so, why?[/b]
    What are you fishing for?
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