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In all sincerity, and in all honesty, do you think Christians truly have faith entirely devoid of evidence?
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
Originally posted by DarfiusI myself believe there is no evidence of the existence of God, so by that rationel, I believe the Christian faith is based intirely on faith and not on evidence.
In all sincerity, and in all honesty, do you think Christians truly have faith entirely devoid of evidence?
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
Originally posted by DarfiusYes indeed. Their evidence that sustains their faith is not evidence that is acceptable to most rational and logical people. Please don't take offence at this comment.
In all sincerity, and in all honesty, do you think Christians truly have faith entirely devoid of evidence?
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
Originally posted by Darfius"Evidence" is a strange word, a vague word often based mostly upon opinion. This kind of evidence is called "circumstantial evidence." This is the essence of Christian evidence, when all one can say is "see, it makes sense if you think about it." It doesn't make logical sense because of all the missing pieces that have to be filled in by the imagination.
In all sincerity, and in all honesty, do you think Christians truly have faith entirely devoid of evidence?
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
Originally posted by DarfiusDo you think we've been pulling your leg all this time? I fail to see any good evidence to indicate that there is a god. As PawnCurry observed, your faith is built entirely around faith. If you were to come clean and admit as much then I might respect your candor. But christians seem determined to have it both ways. They want to insist that their faith is "rational", or that there is some solid evidence for it. Well there isn't. If there was, you wouldn't have any need for faith. Faith is only necessary because there is a complete lack of evidence to support your beliefs.
In all sincerity, and in all honesty, do you think Christians truly have faith entirely devoid of evidence?
I must stress intellectual honesty, please.
Originally posted by pcaspianI see nothing to indicate that DNA has an extra-terrestrial origin. I therefore conclude that it most likely had a terrestrial origin. It's a matter of probability, not belief. I have no vested interest in the origin of DNA. If future discoveries indicate it might have been delivered via a meteorite (or whatever), then I'll adjust my views accordingly. This is a far cry from the theist who believes that his god is factually true, and who bases his life and world view around that belief, despite having no evidence to support it. I have no need for faith in order to entertain hypotheses about the origin of DNA.
Originally posted by rwingett
[b]Do you think we've been pulling your leg all this time? I fail to see any good evidence to indicate that there is a god. As PawnCurry observed, your faith is built entirely around faith.
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Originally posted by rwingettWhich is it, no good evidence or no evidence whatsoever?
I see nothing to indicate that DNA has an extra-terrestrial origin. I therefore conclude that it most likely had a terrestrial origin. It's a matter of probability, not belief. I have no vested interest in the origin of DNA. If future discoveries indicate it might have been delivered via a meteorite (or whatever), then I'll adjust my views accordingly. Th ...[text shortened]... o support it. I have no need for faith in order to entertain hypotheses about the origin of DNA.
Originally posted by thesonofsaulNo good evidence.
Which is it, no good evidence or no evidence whatsoever?
Originally posted by ColettiMasterfully said.
Anyone who claims there is no evidence to warrant faith is fool. A fool does not understand the meaning of evidence or faith. The evidence is there, and even the fool acknowledges the existence of the evidence. But he has confused the evidence for the object of faith that the evidence might point too.
For instance, the atheist may claim the evidence d ...[text shortened]... hat does the evidence point too?
2) Is there enough evidence to believe what it points too?
Originally posted by ColettiNonsense.
Anyone who claims there is no evidence to warrant faith is fool. A fool does not understand the meaning of evidence or faith. The evidence is there, and even the fool acknowledges the existence of the evidence. But he has confused the evidence for the object of faith that the evidence might point too.
For instance, the atheist may claim the evidence d ...[text shortened]... hat does the evidence point too?
2) Is there enough evidence to believe what it points too?
Originally posted by rwingettYour highlighted definition of faith confirms what I have said. “...firm belief in something for which there is no proof.”
...Your definition of faith is also worthless. The intellectual assent to understand propositions? I don't think so. The definition of faith is:
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[b]2b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
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3: something ...[text shortened]... s believing something for which there is good or strong evidence. [/b]