22 Aug '11 11:54>1 edit
Both of you hold very strong views and firmly believe that your view is the correct one. It follows that those who do not, are wrong/deluded/unsaved/heathen/infidel/immature etc etc; even cheating liars!
Most of the threads on this forum are about a particular view on some aspect of a belief system . Because views are so ingrained, there is little room for compromise or learning. Therefore, I would like to hold a discussion on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. In other words, please do not refer to any specific tenet or belief that you hold, but only how you got there .
I postulate that you came by your current belief in one of two ways, i.e.:
POSITION 1: I was born in this box
If this is your position, then you might describe your experience in one or more of the following ways:
1.1 I was fed my current belief with my mother’s milk.
1.2 I cannot remember ever not believing what I do now.
1.3 It may have varied a little over time, and I have become more mature.
1.4 At some stage I went through a formal ritual (initiation, baptism, circumcision, etc) that sealed my acceptance of this belief system.
POSITION 2: I climbed into this box on my own!
2.1 There came a day when I had a “Damascus Road “ experience that changed my life totally. This came about:
2.1.1 All by myself through sudden insight/revelation/spiritual experience
2.1.2 Through long years of hard study and serious questioning
2.1.3 With the help of a preacher/teacher/shaman/friend/acquaintance
2.2 I cannot tell exactly when and how I changed my point of view concerning Faith; all I know is that I no longer subscribe to the beliefs of my youth.
2.3 Over time, I climbed in and out of various boxes. The box I now find myself in:
2.3.1 fits me like a glove, and I am finally “at home”
2.3.2 may not even be the final one, I still keep searching for the truth.
Here is my question:
If you want others to validate your position and credit you with some intelligence on the choices that you have made, and the journey that you have taken, don’t you think that a little humility, charity and tolerance, concerning the boxes which others find themselves in, would not be totally out of place?
In peace
CJ
Most of the threads on this forum are about a particular view on some aspect of a belief system . Because views are so ingrained, there is little room for compromise or learning. Therefore, I would like to hold a discussion on PROCESS rather than CONTENT. In other words, please do not refer to any specific tenet or belief that you hold, but only how you got there .
I postulate that you came by your current belief in one of two ways, i.e.:
POSITION 1: I was born in this box
If this is your position, then you might describe your experience in one or more of the following ways:
1.1 I was fed my current belief with my mother’s milk.
1.2 I cannot remember ever not believing what I do now.
1.3 It may have varied a little over time, and I have become more mature.
1.4 At some stage I went through a formal ritual (initiation, baptism, circumcision, etc) that sealed my acceptance of this belief system.
POSITION 2: I climbed into this box on my own!
2.1 There came a day when I had a “Damascus Road “ experience that changed my life totally. This came about:
2.1.1 All by myself through sudden insight/revelation/spiritual experience
2.1.2 Through long years of hard study and serious questioning
2.1.3 With the help of a preacher/teacher/shaman/friend/acquaintance
2.2 I cannot tell exactly when and how I changed my point of view concerning Faith; all I know is that I no longer subscribe to the beliefs of my youth.
2.3 Over time, I climbed in and out of various boxes. The box I now find myself in:
2.3.1 fits me like a glove, and I am finally “at home”
2.3.2 may not even be the final one, I still keep searching for the truth.
Here is my question:
If you want others to validate your position and credit you with some intelligence on the choices that you have made, and the journey that you have taken, don’t you think that a little humility, charity and tolerance, concerning the boxes which others find themselves in, would not be totally out of place?
In peace
CJ