02 Jun 06
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it's sacreligious to swear on a bible in court. I'm assuming it's not but I also recall it written somewhere in the bible that it's forbidden to swear on Gods name. I don't mean take Gods name in vain either. I mean swear an oath in Gods name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by mokkoI know what you're talking about but I don't think you'll find that in the Bible.
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it's sacreligious to swear on a bible in court. I'm assuming it's not but I also recall it written somewhere in the bible that it's forbidden to swear on Gods name. I don't mean take Gods name in vain either. I mean swear an oath in Gods name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by kirksey957So there is a verse in the bible pertaining to swearing on Gods name?
Occasionally this comes up in a court trial and the way around it is the judge will ask the person to "promise to tell the truth." I doubt Rwingett would touch a Bible much less swear an oath upon it. However, I most often hear about this when it involves very fundamentalist sects.
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by mokkoPerhaps you are referring to a portion of the Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5: 33-37
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it's sacreligious to swear on a bible in court. I'm assuming it's not but I also recall it written somewhere in the bible that it's forbidden to swear on Gods name. I don't mean take Gods name in vain either. I mean swear an oath in Gods name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
03 Jun 06
I am not too sure about the judicial system in Canada, but when I have appear in Australian courts (once as a juror and the other as an expert witness) you are given the choice of swearing an oath on the bible or taking an affirmation - which I took.
If I remember the affirmation went along the lines of “I solemnly declare and affirm that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by WulebgrUmmmm...so what exactly does that mean?
Perhaps you are referring to a portion of the Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5: 33-37
Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, ...[text shortened]... ur 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by STRATOSPH3R3We're given the same choice here as well. They ask you if you object to swearing on the bible. Which I never seen as a problem before but was wondering if it was actually against the word of God to do so.
I am not too sure about the judicial system in Canada, but when I have appear in Australian courts (once as a juror and the other as an expert witness) you are given the choice of swearing an oath on the bible or taking an affirmation - which I took.
If I remember the affirmation went along the lines of “I solemnly declare and affirm that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by mokkoI'm going out on a limb for this one, but...
Ummmm...so what exactly does that mean?
Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Ergo, no need to call upon some other outside source as the surety to one's word. Your word should be right (and free of liens) as rain: further co-signing by anyone or anything else is both presumptuous and unnecessary.
03 Jun 06
Originally posted by mokkoI suppose it depends on what regard you have for God. If the love of Him is before your eyes, you won't lie. If you lie, you are holding Him in contempt and by taking His name to give untruths (and lets face everyone lies sometimes) credibility, you are taking His name in vain.
We're given the same choice here as well. They ask you if you object to swearing on the bible. Which I never seen as a problem before but was wondering if it was actually against the word of God to do so.
Personally I don't believe anyone should have to invoke God's Name to prove their integrity.
03 Jun 06
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Originally posted by mokkoI understand what you're talking about. I know one Anglican minister who, because of his ministry, is often in court as a character witness. He refuses to swear on the Bible, and takes the secular promise to tell the truth instead.
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it's sacreligious to swear on a bible in court. I'm assuming it's not but I also recall it written somewhere in the bible that it's forbidden to swear on Gods name. I don't mean take Gods name in vain either. I mean swear an oath in Gods name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
The passage in question is in the Gospels, it's not the Ten Commandments. It says not to swear on anything, not specifically the scriptures - your word should be good enough. Matthew 5:33-37.
Sometimes lawyers challenge him because they think the reason he didn't swear on the Bible is that he's not telling the whole truth in court. They generally get an extensive lesson in theology for their troubles. 😉