But a serial killer can become a Christian and stop doing is wicked ways, by the power of the Holy Spirit.
I don't understand. Why are some habitual sins compatible with Christianity while others are not?
For example, a man who is having an affair is repeatedly committing a sin and living a sinful lifestyle. From this, can you conclude that the man cannot be a Christian?
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles I don't understand. Why are some habitual sins compatible with Christianity while others are not?
For example, a man who is having an affair is repeatedly committing a sin and living a sinful lifestyle. From this, can you conclude that the man cannot be a Christian?
I don't get it, either. You guys have said that every Christian sins every day and that no sin is acceptable; only God's "grace" can save us. What's the difference if the sin is sawing the paperboy's head off or taking a nickel from the collection plate? Does doing either disqualify you from being a Christian if you're sincerely sorry about it afterwards? And if you lapse again (which all Christians do, right?) so what?
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles Is Coletti wrong when he says that a person cannot be both a Christian and a serial killer?
One cannot both be a true Christian and a Serial Killer. A Christian does sin. We are not excluded from sin. We just don't have to sin on purpose. There are problely Christians that sin and repent, sin and repent. But is their their heart in their repentance. That would be how they would be judged by what was in their heart at the time of repentance. To sin on purpose just because you can be forgiven, is not a true Christian. A true Christian is not going to crucify CHRIST, over and over and over again.
Originally posted by blindfaith101 One cannot both be a true Christian and a Serial Killer. A Christian does sin. We are not excluded from sin. We just don't have to sin on purpose. There are problely Christians that sin and repent, sin and repent. But is their their heart in their repentance. That would be how they would be judged by what was in their heart at the time of repentance. ...[text shortened]... a true Christian. A true Christian is not going to crucify CHRIST, over and over and over again.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles I don't understand. Why are some habitual sins compatible with Christianity while others are not?
For example, a man who is having an affair is repeatedly committing a sin and living a sinful lifestyle. From this, can you conclude that the man cannot be a Christian?
Their are no sins that are compatible with CHristianity. What some do not understand is A Christian must follow the whole word of CHRIST not just the part that they like. All habitual sins are sins, period. If a man sins repeatedly you can not conclude that he is a Christian. Neither can you say that he is not. But if a man sins and knows he is sinning while he is sinning can that man repent and be forgiven.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles The adulterer's? You would say that genuine Christian adulterers cannot exist?
Christian Adulterers are sinners and GOD hates sin. If that Christian Adulterer does not repent and turn back to CHRIST, he is going to everlasting punishment.
Originally posted by no1marauder BF: We just don't have to sin on purpose.
How do you "accidentally" sin?
Some Christians do sin on purpose, because they think that they can repent and be forgiven. They misuse both the Grace of GOD and the Salvation of CHRIST.
There have been times that we all have done something that we thought was right, but turned out to be wrong. Turned out to be a sin that was not on purpose.
Originally posted by blindfaith101 Their are no sins that are compatible with CHristianity. What some do not understand is A Christian must follow the whole word of CHRIST not just the part that they like. All habitual sins are sins, period. If a man sins repeatedly you can not conclude that he is a Christian. Neither can you say that he is not. But if a man sins and knows he is sinning while he is sinning can that man repent and be forgiven.
When I ask whether a sin is "compatible with Christianity," I mean to ask whether it is logically possible for a person to both commit that sin and to be a Christian concurrently. I understand that to sin is to go against God's will, so I don't mean to ask if sin and Christianity are compatible in that sense, like compassion and forgiveness are compatible with Christianity.
Given that understanding of the term, do you still maintain that their [sic] are no sins that are compatible with Christianity? Or would you say that some sins are and some sins are not compatible with Christianity? That is, given that a person habitually commits some particular sins, can you infer, as Coletti does, that that person is not in fact a true Christian?
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles When I ask whether a sin is "compatible with Christianity," I mean to ask whether it is logically possible for a person to both commit that sin and to be a Christian concurrently. I understand that to sin is to go against God's will, so I don't mean to ask if sin and Christianity are compatible in that sense, like compassion and forgiveness are ...[text shortened]... ular sins, can you infer, as Coletti does, that that person is not in fact a true Christian?
I keep hearing the term "true Christian" come up in this conversation. Is there a difference between a Christian and a true Christian? I have the same reaction to "born again Christian" as it is used to say that form of a Christian is superior to a plain old Christian.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles When I ask whether a sin is "compatible with Christianity," I mean to ask whether it is logically possible for a person to both commit that sin and to be a Christian concurrently. I understand that to sin is to go against God's will, so I don't mean to ask if sin and Christianity are compatible in that sense, like compassion and forgiveness are ...[text shortened]... ular sins, can you infer, as Coletti does, that that person is not in fact a true Christian?
You ask a very good question. But do we know the heart of that sinning Christian? Not knowing the heart makes that question very hard to answer.
Originally posted by blindfaith101 You ask a very good question. But do we know the heart of that sinning Christian? Not knowing the heart makes that question very hard to answer.
I agree. It is hard to tell when someone has a "true heart" for Christ. The warnings about not leading a life of sin is a warning to people in the church if they continue un-changed in their ways. For once a person is converted, some evidence should be there. Habitual sins (chronic sin) is not compatible to a changed heart and mind that the Christians is supposed to have. There will be sins, and some habits die painful death, but non-the-less, Christians are no longer slaves to sin.