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@avalanchethecat said
This is clearly not true.
It sure is.

I’ve never seen him insult an atheist, or a Christ denier for that matter.


@pb1022 said
It sure is.

I’ve never seen him insult an atheist, or a Christ denier for that matter.
I have.


@sonship said
So the Christ denier / atheist coalition continues in strong alliance.
Quite a tag team againt the Gospel - "You hit em high and I hit em low."
A tagline on the poster for the psychodrama you apparently live in.


@avalanchethecat said
I have.
Are you saying he insulted you?


@PB1022

I’ve never seen him insult an atheist, or a Christ denier for that matter.


The bond is growing closer and not weakening.

To this alliance the grace of Christ is huey and the existence of God is huey.
The bond is tightening as we speak.

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@pb1022 said
His false doctrine ignores most of the Holy Bible, including Jesus Christ’s own statements.
Apparently you think being a Christian, or a follower of Christ, is principally about espousing the right doctrine, about the Bible.

You're putting the cart before the horse. Christianity is not based on the Bible. It's the other way around. The Bible is tertiary. Two other steps come first, both chronologically and authoritatively. Those two other steps are what constitute the religion, the real meal; the Bible is merely the menu, not the real meal. The Bible is merely the programme, not the concert.


@moonbus said
Apparently you think being a Christian, or a follower of Christ, is principally about espousing the right doctrine, about the Bible.

You're putting the cart before the horse. Christianity is not based on the Bible. It's the other way around. The Bible is tertiary. Two other steps come first, both chronologically and authoritatively. Those two other steps are what c ...[text shortened]... the Bible is merely the menu, not the real meal. The Bible is merely the programme, not the concert.
I find it amusing when atheists lecture Christians on what Christianity is all about.


@pb1022 said
I find it amusing when atheists lecture Christians on what Christianity is all about.
This retort sidesteps the substance of what he said.


@fmf said
This retort sidesteps the substance of what he said.
Of course, that's his m.o. If you can't 'win' the point, change the point.


@pb1022 said
I find it amusing when atheists lecture Christians on what Christianity is all about.
Yeah, me, too. I'm laughing my ass off, because it's no skin off my nose -- to mix metaphors.


@pb1022 said
Wrong, Mr. Moonbus.

His false doctrine ignores most of the Holy Bible, including Jesus Christ’s own statements.

Atheists like his false doctrine because Gid is nowhere in it.
Saying that 'God is nowhere in my doctrine', is the kind of comment that make you lose any credibility around here where people have a clear idea of what I say. Nobody around here believe that I support atheists either. That is your problem. You lack the ability to be clear, concise, truthful and believable.

Moonbus and FMF have perfectly summarized what I believe, and it is a simple doctrine that Jesus preached. Live righteously, and do good works and the reward for that, for all people is eternal life in the end at his return. The Apostles did the same, but Christianity has removed the teachings about righteousness and good works from their doctrine, and promote a faith only teaching.

As for the Christ deniers... Jesus said
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.(Matthew 15:8-9 KJV)

The worst way to deny Christ is to deny His teachings, and the only people I see denying the teachings of Christ are the Christians, who honour Christ with their lips and not their heart.

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Okay, you atheists can put on your magnanimus Bored With Dogma hats now, as I make comment to Rajk999.

Saying that 'God is nowhere in my doctrine', is the kind of comment that make you lose any credibility around here where people have a clear idea of what I say. Nobody around here believe that I support atheists either.


Rajk999's understanding of the gospel has God nowhere within.
Okay God is there, as God is there in Islam. But God is not within as grace and life.
Okay God is there, as God is there in Judaism. But not as divine life imparted into man's innermost being, bringing grace.

No God within is no grace within.
Jehovah's Witnesses have God as Islam, even as Orthodox Judasim.
But much Christrianity (to be honest) and all of YOUR Rajk999anity are lacking
God within as grace.

He is not WITHIN.
He is not God lives in men, abides in men, and is their life.

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LIke this:
"In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you." (John 14:20)

The Triune God within.

"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him and he in God." (1 John 1:14)

God abiding IN men.

Now to be fair, here is a verse about God being IN men which Rajk999 probably would reach for because it is connected with our actions, our doing something. He would appeal to a verse like this.

"And he who keeps His commandments abides in Him and He in him. And in this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He gave to us." (1 JOhn 3:24)

Rajk999 would instantly grasp hold of the part "keep His commandments." THAT would be the most important thing to him. And it is important.

But I am afraid that is all he sees, about the keeping of commandments. It is by the grace and supply and empowering of the indwelling Holy Spirit that man can only be furnished with that ability to keep any command of Jesus.

In fact ANY passage about God living in man Rajk999ism sees as muster up energy out of your fallen nature and keep commandments. There is no dispensing of God's Spirit of life into man. It is pseudo Jehovah's Witness willpower work despising grace, downplaying, neglecting, and even opposing ". . . and it is no longer I that live, but it is Christ who lives in me . . . "


@rajk999 said
Moonbus and FMF have perfectly summarized what I believe, and it is a simple doctrine that Jesus preached.
My pleasure. It's odd how sonship pretends he wants atheists to explain it to him. Just a low-integrity rhetorical gimmick on his part, I think.

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@Rajk999

Saying that 'God is nowhere in my doctrine', is the kind of comment that make you lose any credibility around here where people have a clear idea of what I say. Nobody around here believe that I support atheists either.


There is no Christ comes to live in people.
There is no God in Christ imparted to man's human spirit.

"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers, Amen." (Gal. 6:18)

Rajk999ism knows NOTHING of this. Keep commandments. That he knows.
No Christ the power to do so as indwelling grace is in his teaching.

"Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in incorruptibility" (Eph. 6:24)

He doesn't know anything about that.

"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit." (Phil. 4:23)

This is God WITHIN.

"Grace be with you all." (TItus 3:15)

Rajk999anity knows nothing of this.
God is not the living God living WITHIN having come to be grace.

"The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." (2 Tim. 4:22)

This is Paul's last written word in the New Testament. The critical final word.
Jesus Christ as empowering grace is within, subjectively "with your spirit".

Rajk999 shold learn about this by experience and revelation.