Recall Notice

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    RECALL NOTICE:
    The Maker of all human beings (GOD) is
    recalling all units manufactured, regardless of
    make or year, due to a serious defect in the
    primary and central component of the heart.
    This is due to a malfunction in the original
    prototype units code named Adam and Eve,
    resulting in the reproduction of the same defect
    in all subsequent units. This defect has been
    identified as "Subsequential Internal Non-
    morality," more commonly known as S.I.N., as
    it is primarily expressed.

    Some of the symptoms include:
    1. Loss of direction
    2. Foul vocal emissions
    3. Amnesia of origin
    4. Lack of peace and joy
    5. Selfish or violent behavior
    6. Depression or confusion
    7. Fearfulness
    8. Idolatry
    9. Rebellion
    The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at
    fault for this defect, is providing factory-
    authorized repair and service free of charge
    to correct this defect. The Repair Technician,
    JESUS, has most generously offered to bear
    the entire burden of the staggering cost of
    these repairs. There is no additional fee
    required. The number to call for repair in all
    areas is: P-R-A-Y-E-R. Once connected,
    please upload your burden of SIN through
    the REPENTANCE procedure. Next,
    download ATONEMENT from the Repair
    Technician, Jesus, into the heart component.

    No matter how big or small the SIN defect
    is, Jesus will replace it with his spirit that will then bare such fruit as:
    1. Love
    2. Joy
    3. Peace
    4. Patience
    5. Kindness
    6. Goodness
    7. Faithfulness
    8. Gentleness
    9. Self-control

    Please see the operating manual, the
    B.I.B.L.E.(BEST Instructions Before Leaving
    Earth) for further details on the use of these
    fixes.
    WARNING: Continuing to operate the
    human being unit without correction voids
    any manufacturer warranties, exposing the unit
    to dangers and problems too numerous to list,
    and will result in the human unit being
    permanently impounded. For free emergency
    service, call on Jesus.

    DANGER: The human being units not
    responding to this recall action will have to be
    scrapped in the furnace. The SIN defect will not
    be permitted to enter Heaven so as to
    prevent contamination of that facility. Thank you
    for your attention!

    - GOD

    P.S. Please assist where possible by
    notifying others of this important recall notice,
    and you may contact the Father any time by
    'Knee mail'!

    Because HE Lives!
  2. Standard memberDeepThought
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    Quite entertaining, but you did unfortunately feel the need to threaten all of us sceptics with a firey furnace. This is not a credible threat and really is hardly ethical.
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    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    RECALL NOTICE:
    The Maker of all human beings (GOD) is
    recalling all units manufactured, regardless of
    make or year, due to a serious defect in the
    primary and central component of the heart.
    This is due to a malfunction in the original
    prototype units code named Adam and Eve,
    resulting in the reproduction of the same defect
    in all subsequent uni ...[text shortened]... recall notice,
    and you may contact the Father any time by
    'Knee mail'!

    Because HE Lives!
    "The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect..."

    Uh...I beg to differ. The Manufacturer knew beforehand that his design was defective. He knew that it would have to be recalled. But he built it to those specifications anyway. The product behaved exactly as it was designed to. Therefore the manufacturer is directly responsible and liable for ALL damages done.
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    11 Jan '15 01:03
    Originally posted by rwingett
    [b]"The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect..."

    Uh...I beg to differ. The Manufacturer knew beforehand that his design was defective. He knew that it would have to be recalled. But he built it to those specifications anyway. The product behaved exactly as it was designed to. Therefore the manufacturer is directly responsible and liable for ALL damages done.[/b]
    This could be one massive class action against the Manufacturer!
    No wonder he has gone to ground!
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    Originally posted by rwingett
    [b]"The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect..."

    Uh...I beg to differ. The Manufacturer knew beforehand that his design was defective. He knew that it would have to be recalled. But he built it to those specifications anyway. The product behaved exactly as it was designed to. Therefore the manufacturer is directly responsible and liable for ALL damages done.[/b]
    Incorrect!

    The original prototype(Adam)was flawless in design and manufacturing as evidenced by his innate ability of volition, including the fact that he was given advanced warning not to make the fatal choice, upon which all warranties were made nil and void.
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    11 Jan '15 01:221 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    Incorrect!

    The original prototype(Adam)was flawless in design and manufacturing as evidenced by his innate ability of volition, including the fact that he was given advanced warning not to make the fatal choice, upon which all warranties were made nil and void.
    The so-called "prototype" would force the sacrifice of a member of the maker's family. The only Son. Who also happened to be the Father. I can imagine the Son saying "Dad, you know what's going to happen." "I have a plan for that eventuality." "Yeah, and I don't like it."

    This "recall" metaphor/analogy is pretty lame, but it is instructive about the use of such rhetorical devices.
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    11 Jan '15 01:34
    Originally posted by JS357
    The so-called "prototype" would force the sacrifice of a member of the maker's family.
    "Force" how? You're making an assumption. Whether or not the manufacturer knew the prototype would make the fatal choice doesn't make the "product" exempt from liability.

    That the manufacturer would then freely offer repair of the self inflicted defect only serves to demonstrate the manufacturers sincere love for the product.
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    11 Jan '15 02:03
    Originally posted by josephw
    "Force" how? You're making an assumption. Whether or not the manufacturer knew the prototype would make the fatal choice doesn't make the "product" exempt from liability.

    That the manufacturer would then freely offer repair of the self inflicted defect only serves to demonstrate the manufacturers sincere love for the product.
    Loving the product is not a sane defense, and I have both run corporate "recall meetings" and testified in product liability trials.

    Perhaps, if we want to keep this going, the metaphor would work better if the legal issue is like child endangerment/neglect/abuse.

    But exposing the child, with foreknowledge, to an attractive nuisance, could be a problem. I would advise the client to plea bargain.
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    11 Jan '15 02:08
    Originally posted by JS357
    This "recall" metaphor/analogy is pretty lame, but it is instructive about the use of such rhetorical devices.
    A lot of material posted by people in this forum is instructive about the use of rhetorical devices.
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    11 Jan '15 02:22
    Originally posted by JS357
    Loving the product is not a sane defense, and I have both run corporate "recall meetings" and testified in product liability trials.

    Perhaps, if we want to keep this going, the metaphor would work better if the legal issue is like child endangerment/neglect/abuse.

    But exposing the child, with foreknowledge, to an attractive nuisance, could be a problem. I would advise the client to plea bargain.
    The manufacturer isn't the one on trial. The product, which is a replica of the creator of the product, with the same attribute of volition, is accountable for his own choices and subsequently on trial for failure to follow parameters of use.
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    11 Jan '15 02:47
    Originally posted by josephw
    Incorrect!

    The original prototype(Adam)was flawless in design and manufacturing as evidenced by his innate ability of volition, including the fact that he was given advanced warning not to make the fatal choice, upon which all warranties were made nil and void.
    The original prototype was given the choice of freewill (allegedly). The designer knew beforehand all the choices the prototype would make, including the one choice he didn't want it to make. The designer went ahead with that particular design anyway. Therefore the designer is liable for all damages.
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    11 Jan '15 04:171 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    The manufacturer isn't the one on trial. The product, which is a replica of the creator of the product, with the same attribute of volition, is accountable for his own choices and subsequently on trial for failure to follow parameters of use.
    What if the manufacturer knew full well in advance that the "parameters of use" would not be followed and would warrant a 'product recall'? Is the manufacturer still not accountable?

    edit: Oh, I see rwingett has beaten me to it on this point
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    11 Jan '15 06:09
    Originally posted by josephw
    The manufacturer isn't the one on trial.
    ... but the "product" is?


    Imagine a future where a corporation (say Apple) produces robots.
    When these robots do "bad things" who do you think will be liable?

    The robots? or Apple?
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    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    ... but the "product" is?


    Imagine a future where a corporation (say Apple) produces robots.
    When these robots do "bad things" who do you think will be liable?

    The robots? or Apple?
    God didn't create robots.
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    Originally posted by josephw
    God didn't create robots.
    Do you think this "recall" metaphor/analogy is pretty good or pretty lame?
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