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Spirituality

  1. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    04 Mar '16 19:06
    Was only a few days ago i wrote, in the general forum, that i believed dreams had no meaning and were simply the brain's way of getting rid of unwanted information. (The reason dreams are random and soon forgotten).
    Lo and behold, last night i had what i can only describe as a religious dream. (Quite an achievement for an atheist insomniac!) I vividly remember an arm reaching down from the sky and holding my hand. I particularly remember that the hand felt real (solid) as though holding a hand in the waking world. I also recall a desire not to think anything bad while holding the hand. (Which i know sounds a bit odd).
    I still stand by my belief that dreams are without true meaning, and suspect the dream was in some way influenced by discussions here in these forums. Even so, i woke this morning feeling decidedly befuddled.
  2. 04 Mar '16 20:15
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Was only a few days ago i wrote, in the general forum, that i believed dreams had no meaning and were simply the brain's way of getting rid of unwanted information.
    Dreams are the way the brain processes, analyses and stores information, I guess that since some compression takes place you might call that getting rid of unwanted information, but I don't think that's an accurate description of the overall process.
  3. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    04 Mar '16 20:46
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Dreams are the way the brain processes, analyses and stores information, I guess that since some compression takes place you might call that getting rid of unwanted information, but I don't think that's an accurate description of the overall process.
    That's certainly an interesting theory, but by no means definitive.

    'The problem with any theory about dreams is that we can't really prove or disprove any of them, and they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.'

    Charles Bryant
  4. 04 Mar '16 21:13 / 1 edit
    I dream of people I've not seen in a long time. Next thing you know I meet them again.

    Very freaky.
  5. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    04 Mar '16 21:39
    Originally posted by whodey
    I dream of people I've not seen in a long time. Next thing you know I meet them again.

    Very freaky.
    Coincidence!!!
  6. Standard member KellyJay
    Walk your Faith
    05 Mar '16 10:37
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Was only a few days ago i wrote, in the general forum, that i believed dreams had no meaning and were simply the brain's way of getting rid of unwanted information. (The reason dreams are random and soon forgotten).
    Lo and behold, last night i had what i can only describe as a religious dream. (Quite an achievement for an atheist insomniac!) I vivid ...[text shortened]... d by discussions here in these forums. Even so, i woke this morning feeling decidedly befuddled.
    Well scripture teaches God sends dreams, that is not saying all dreams come from God
    for a reason to carry a meaning too. I've had a few that I thought were powerful, and
    heard one or two that I thought were very powerful as well.

    The one that sticks out the most is by a girl I knew a long time ago. She was sharing in
    her dream she and some others were standing in front of a church and the sky started
    to part and they could see the Lord starting to return. Those with her pointed to Jesus
    and others that were standing next to the church couldn't see Him because the building
    was in the way.

    She shared that with me about 30 years ago.
  7. 05 Mar '16 11:11
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    That's certainly an interesting theory, but by no means definitive.
    It is definitive.

    'The problem with any theory about dreams is that we can't really prove or disprove any of them, and they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.'

    Charles Bryant

    He was wrong.
  8. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    05 Mar '16 11:26
    Originally posted by whodey
    I dream of people I've not seen in a long time. Next thing you know I meet them again.

    Very freaky.
    Have you made a note of things that you've dreamed about which did NOT later become part of a memorable coincidence? I'd be interested to know how many of these there were ~ things, people, thoughts which had no reason to imprint themselves on your memory ~ compared to the number of coincidences that DID imprint themselves on your memory... and thus became the kind of anecdotal evidence you offered here.
  9. 05 Mar '16 12:15
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Was only a few days ago i wrote, in the general forum, that i believed dreams had no meaning and were simply the brain's way of getting rid of unwanted information. (The reason dreams are random and soon forgotten).
    Lo and behold, last night i had what i can only describe as a religious dream. (Quite an achievement for an atheist insomniac!) I vivid ...[text shortened]... d by discussions here in these forums. Even so, i woke this morning feeling decidedly befuddled.
    Stay of the cheese in the evenings
  10. Standard member sonship
    the corrected one.
    05 Mar '16 13:23 / 2 edits
    Lo and behold, last night i had what i can only describe as a religious dream. (Quite an achievement for an atheist insomniac!) I vividly remember an arm reaching down from the sky and holding my hand. I particularly remember that the hand felt real (solid) as though holding a hand in the waking world. I also recall a desire not to think anything bad while holding the hand. (Which i know sounds a bit odd). [/b]


    If you would subjectively find fellowship with God and commune with Him, you would find that there is no reason at all for hostility towards God.

    It reminds me of the verse "Taste and see that the Lord is good." (Psalm 34:8).
  11. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    05 Mar '16 13:51
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    It is definitive.

    [b]'The problem with any theory about dreams is that we can't really prove or disprove any of them, and they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.'

    Charles Bryant

    He was wrong.[/b]
    Definitive perhaps to your own understanding.

    'Dreams are successions of images, ideas, emotions, and sensations that occur usually involuntarily in the mind during certain stages of sleep. The content and purpose of dreams are not definitively understood, though they have been a topic of scientific speculation, as well as a subject of philosophical and religious interest, throughout recorded history.'
  12. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    05 Mar '16 20:18 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Definitive perhaps to your own understanding.

    'Dreams are successions of images, ideas, emotions, and sensations that occur usually involuntarily in the mind during certain stages of sleep. The content and purpose of dreams are not definitively understood, though they have been a topic of scientific speculation, as well as a subject of philosophical and religious interest, throughout recorded history.'
    Dreams indicate the way in which we individually process information, and so have some value to a psychologist.

    Freud thought that most dreams were manifestations of a sexual nature or indicative of our inner motivations about sex. But then again, he also thought women had 'penis envy'. Bwahahahaha!!
  13. Standard member karoly aczel
    Clear and watery
    05 Mar '16 21:43
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Was only a few days ago i wrote, in the general forum, that i believed dreams had no meaning and were simply the brain's way of getting rid of unwanted information. (The reason dreams are random and soon forgotten).
    Lo and behold, last night i had what i can only describe as a religious dream. (Quite an achievement for an atheist insomniac!) I vivid ...[text shortened]... d by discussions here in these forums. Even so, i woke this morning feeling decidedly befuddled.
    Seems pretty clear to me (the dreams general meaning).

    Your honesty makes this a possibly engaging and revealing topic.
  14. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    05 Mar '16 21:44
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Dreams indicate the way in which we individually process information, and so have some value to a psychologist.

    Freud thought that most dreams were manifestations of a sexual nature or indicative of our inner motivations about sex. But then again, he also thought women had 'penis envy'. Bwahahahaha!!
    That was, by all accounts, just a Freudian slip. He actually meant 'pen envy,' as men tend to get nice pens as presents which women can get quite envious about.
  15. Standard member karoly aczel
    Clear and watery
    05 Mar '16 21:45
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Coincidence!!!
    I've had so many coincidences in my life that they've turned into something else!