19 Feb '16 05:11>1 edit
Originally posted by divegeesterMost? Just a question. (You might be right. It is just a question.)
Most of the Christians in this forum have either told me or insinuated that I'm not a Christian. You never objected to that.
But it does seem to come down to this (whether admitted or not): Hold the “right” doctrine, and you’re a “Christian”—hold the “wrong” doctrine, and you’re not.
Amidst the arguments over “faith” and “works,” where does love come in? If love is greater than faith (1st Corinthians 13:13), and—at least in one version of “proper doctrine”—faith is sort of the “minimum requirement” for salvation, can love then be ignored? And if love is not active in “works”? And if God actually is love (agape)—how does that relativize all the rest under that rubric?
(I am not interested in some complex, word by word analysis of what the Biblical texts might say—we have seen that on here enough, and it never leads to agreement.)
But—If I love, and love is even greater than faith . . . then who condemns my love? Where in Christian doctrine is love (agape) condemned? Where in Christian doctrine are “belief” or “works” held higher than love—assuming that by “works” are not meant simply acts of love?
I have been told on here—more than once, over the years, in a Christian context—that love is not somehow “sufficient .” Sufficient, I wonder, for what?
I now wonder if, in all my arguments with Rajk—over just works versus grace—I missed the point. Love is what undergirds both.
Now, I am sure that there are any number of Christians who are willing here to rush in from the wings to tell me what I need to be a “True Christian™”, and why. I really don’t care. This has been going on for years on here. There is no one on these threads to whom I grant the authority to tell me what I “must” think, believe, or do. And all those who are so quick to quote the Biblical texts (in more or less detail) sometimes seem to forget that I don’t necessarily hold their readings/understandings as authoritative.
Love and grace—that’s the best I can do, to the best of my (flawed) ability (which is why I need grace). But so many Christians seem to think that just the “right” belief (thinking), or just the “right” morality, or just the “right” doctrine is what matters.
I will risk it all on love. Those who have other religious requirements can say what they will.
Anyway, I have an inkling, at least, of what you feel. Maybe it is "most".