@moonbus saidI think you have that wrong, not all Christians will kill or join the forces. You will easily find catholics killing eachother (just look at Rowanda) but not so Quakers. You can't lump them all together.
Ex 22:18.
However, as I have pointed out in other threads, the writings are tertiary in Christianity. What matters in Christianity is what the body of Christ says, and the body of Christ in the world is the Church. Christianity is whatever the Church says it is. If the Church says to burn witches then that is God‘s will for man, as far as Christians are concerned.
@medullah saidThe Quakers are possibly the closest thing to what Jesus's immediate followers were, 'wherever two or more are gathered in his name' with no Church and no priest class. It is however well to remember that there is no indication that Jesus thought of himself as founding a new religion, separate from Judaism.
I think you have that wrong, not all Christians will kill or join the forces. You will easily find catholics killing eachother (just look at Rowanda) but not so Quakers. You can't lump them all together.
@moonbus
Surely the New Covenanat signified something different? That was at jesus instigation at the passover, and it was the memorial of his death that took over from the passover?
Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Not "keep doing this in memory of the passover". It was a new arrangement
verse 20 continues " In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you."
@medullah saidWhen Jesus said, I come not to break the law, but to fill it, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. When Jesus said not one jot of the law shall pass away, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. The so-called new covenant was a Pauline invention, Judaism for Gentiles.
@moonbus
Surely the New Covenanat signified something different? That was at jesus instigation at the passover, and it was the memorial of his death that took over from the passover?
Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Not "keep doing this in m ...[text shortened]... er he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you."
@moonbus saidJesus ushered in the new covenant here:
When Jesus said, I come not to break the law, but to fill it, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. When Jesus said not one jot of the law shall pass away, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. The so-called new covenant was a Pauline invention, Judaism for Gentiles.
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. (Mat 26:27-28 KJV)
Testament is another word for covenant. Here is the Greek word
διαθήκη, diathēkē, dee-ath-ay'-kay
From G1303; properly a disposition, that is, (specifically) a contract (especially a devisory will): - covenant, testament.
Jesus came to fulfil [not fill] the law, and this he did by his death and resurrection. The Torah includes all the writings of the Prophets which will not pass away but will also come to pass.
Paul simply continued on with preaching about the new covenant which Jesus instituted. Regarding the new covenant he fabricated nothing. He may have given his personal opinion on other matters but this new covenant is directly from Christ.
@moonbus saidThe Torah (sometimes referred to as the pentateuch) contained the law, that which was given to Moses. It wasn't in its entirity the law, but I agree with you, it recorded the law.
When Jesus said, I come not to break the law, but to fill it, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. When Jesus said not one jot of the law shall pass away, the law he meant was the Torah, no other. The so-called new covenant was a Pauline invention, Judaism for Gentiles.