1. Standard membergalveston75
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    26 Feb '14 15:321 edit
    Originally posted by caissad4
    If Satan were to truly repent of his "sins" and accept Jesus as his personal savior, would he be saved ? Could this be acceptable to all Christians ? How would Christians worldwide react to Satan becoming one of "them" ? 😲
    No he would never be forgiven by God. Satan was not a human who was born with sin as is the case with our nature. We all inherited sin from birth. This was not the case with satan and the angels that followed him. They choose this direction with full knowledge of what it would eventually mean for them.
    This would also apply to Adam and Eve who willfully chose their course.
  2. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    26 Feb '14 19:00
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    i would like to see bible verses supporting this.
    "The Doctrine of the Angelic Conflict"

    "Definition and Description: Heaven is the location of the pre-historic appeal trial of Satan. When the pre-incarnate Christ created the universe, He formed a race of super creatures classified in the Bible as angels. Angels are rational beings with the ability to travel throughout the universe God created for them. He made them perfect, without sin, totally acceptable to His absolute righteousness. Because volition is a necessary component of a rational mentality and of capacity for love, God gave the angels free will so that they might understand His character and worship Him. In the beginning the most exalted of all the angels was the anointed cherub, whom the Bible calls Satan or the devil, the son of the morning (Isa. 14:12). He was entrusted with responsibilities and was granted privileges beyond those of any other angel, but he abused his freedom through arrogance and rebellion against God (Ezek. 28:12-19).

    Arrogance is the worst of all sins. It is the distorter and obscurer of reality, an enemy of every rational creature. Arrogance was the self-deception that caused the devil to compete with God rather than love and worship Him. Arrogance is the reason why he will suffer eternal condemnation in the Lake of Fire (Matt. 25:41). The devil was the most talented, attractive and personable creature to come from the hand of God (Ezek. 28:12; 2 Cor. 11:14). His force of persuasion is as compelling today as when he convinced one third of all the angels to join his prehistoric revolution against God (Rev. 12:4a).

    Satan’s fall and his leadership of myriad angels in revolt started the prehistoric warfare called the angelic conflict which continues today and will be concluded only with the final judgment at the end of human history. Human history was designed to resolve this conflict between God and Satan. A comparison of Scripture with Scripture leads to the conclusion that God held a trial in eternity past. In the prehistoric trial God was the judge and the prosecution; Satan was the defense. God considered all the evidence and pronounced a guilty verdict. He sentenced Satan and all the fallen angels to “eternal fire” (Matt. 25:41).

    Further biblical evidence for the prehistoric trial of fallen angels is found in Satan’s titles. The words “devil” and “Satan” are not names but titles, both of which mean “accuser” or “adversary” as an attorney accuses someone in court. He is called the devil and Satan because he was the defense attorney who represented himself and the fallen angels at the prehistoric trial and because he continues to act as an attorney now that the trial has entered its appeal phase during human history (Job 1:6-12; 2:1-5; Zech. 3:1-2). “Eternal fire has been prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt. 25:41), but because the sentence was not immediately executed-and, in fact, will not be carried out until the end of human history (Rev. 20:10)-we can accurately infer that Satan appealed the sentence. The elapse of time between the sentence and its execution indicates that human history is part of this momentous trial, the appeal trial of Satan.

    Vocabulary:

    Martureo (verb), “to bear witness, to be a witness, to testify in a courtroom case.”
    Marturia (noun), “testimony, evidence.”
    Marturion (noun), “testimony, witness, proof, evidence.”
    Martus (noun), “witness, observer.”
    Pseudomartus (noun), “one who gives misrepresenting testimony, a false witness.”

    Documentation:

    Job 1-2
    Zechariah 3:1-2
    Matthew 4:1-10; 24:14; 25:41; 27:45-46
    Mark 13:9; 15:33-34
    Luke 9:5; 15:10; 21:13; 23:44-45; 24:48
    John 3:17-21, 32-33; 12:30-32; 13:44-50; 15:27; 18:37.
    Acts 1:8, 22; 2:32; 3:15; 4:33; 5:32; 10:41; 22:15, 20; 23:11; 26:16
    1 Corinthians 1:6; 2:1; 4:9; 6:3; 15:15
    Ephesians 4:17
    1 Thessalonians 2:10
    1 Timothy 2:6; 6:12-13
    2 Timothy 1:8; 2:2
    Hebrews 3:5; 11:2-4, 39; Hebrews 12:1
    1 Peter 5:1
    1 John 4:14; 5:6-11
    3 John 3, 12
    Revelation 1:2, 5, 9; 2:13; 3:14; 6:9; 11:3, 7; 12:11, 17; 15:15; 17:6; 19:10; 20:4, 11-15.

    Supreme Court of Heaven:

    The Supreme Court of Heaven presides over the appeal trial of Satan. There is a gallery of angels who are viewing this trial. There are 3 members of the Supreme Court of Heaven. Each of the 3 members of the Trinity is presiding over Satan’s appeal: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each are co-equal, co-infinite and co-eternal with all sharing the same divine attributes of: (1) Sovereignty (2) Righteousness (3) Justice (4) Love (5) Eternal Life (6) Omniscience (7) Omnipresence (8) Omnipotence (9) Immutability (10) Veracity. They all possess perfect integrity. Therefore, the perfect character and integrity of the Supreme Court of Heaven guarantees a perfect decision in this appeal trial of Satan and the fallen angels." http://www.wenstrom.org/downloads/written/doctrines/satanology/angelic_conflict.pdf
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    26 Feb '14 19:57
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]"The Doctrine of the Angelic Conflict"

    "Definition and Description: Heaven is the location of the pre-historic appeal trial of Satan. When the pre-incarnate Christ created the universe, He formed a race of super creatures classified in the Bible as angels. Angels are rational beings with the ability to travel throughout the universe God create ...[text shortened]... len angels." http://www.wenstrom.org/downloads/written/doctrines/satanology/angelic_conflict.pdf[/b]
    Well said.
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    26 Feb '14 21:25
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    i would like to see bible verses supporting this.
    It depends on what you call the Bible. There are apocryphal works where all this is delineated.
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    27 Feb '14 02:56
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Since you mentioned it, I believe Satan and His angels are already condemned to the everlasting fire, because Jesus said it was prepared for them. We still have a chance to avoid the Lake of Fire.
    Possible, and not a point I'd debate. I just think Judgment day will seal the
    deal.
    Kelly
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    27 Feb '14 03:25
    Originally posted by caissad4
    If Satan were to truly repent of his "sins" and accept Jesus as his personal savior, would he be saved ? Could this be acceptable to all Christians ? How would Christians worldwide react to Satan becoming one of "them" ? 😲
    It won't happen so why weary about it or even talk about it 😲
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    02 Mar '14 21:11
    Originally posted by caissad4
    If Satan were to truly repent of his "sins" and accept Jesus as his personal savior, would he be saved ? Could this be acceptable to all Christians ? How would Christians worldwide react to Satan becoming one of "them" ? 😲
    If Satan were to truly repent he will be in heaven. And i would love to play him a game of chess. (he'ld kill me). The Christians world wide are too proud, and would not see his change. They have forgotten God's grace.
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    02 Mar '14 21:533 edits
    Forget about Satan ever being saved.

    God is very wise. He knew in eternity, that some creatures He would create would want to exercise their own free will and have nothing to do with their Creator God. It appears to me that God summed them all up under one leader - the Anointed Cherub who became Satan.

    God appointed one large receptacle, wide container - the incomparably wise and powerful Satan and his rebellion, so as to include all revolt against God under one leader.

    It is like having one large dumpster into which all that is in rebellions to His will can all go together.
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  10. Standard memberRJHinds
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    He means don't waste your time on false theories, like Satan's salvation and apes evolving into men.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I understand that there is NO common ancestor between modern apes and modern man. I understand that there is a common Designer and Maker.
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