Originally posted by RJHindsDNA was discovered by science, and is often studied by scientists. But DNA itself is merely a fact of life and not, in itself, science. So to say something is scientific merely because it involves DNA, is a misunderstanding of what science is (or in your case, probably just a bare faced lie).
DNA - God's amazing programming; evidence for his existence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBeCxKzYiIA
Information embedded in DNA Proves The Existence of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xr-OgizBg
Scientific Proof of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzetqYev_AI
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhere did I say DNA was science?
DNA was discovered by science, and is often studied by scientists. But DNA itself is merely a fact of life and not, in itself, science. So to say something is scientific merely because it involves DNA, is a misunderstanding of what science is (or in your case, probably just a bare faced lie).
Originally posted by SuzianneYou mean free will to choose whether or not to believe in God, not free will in general.
Any proof of God negates Free Will.
But you are essentially suggesting that your decision to believe in God is arbitrary and not based on any form of evidence. But then the whole concept of free will always boils down to: either we have reasons for making decisions and our decisions proceed somewhat deterministically, or our decisions are arbitrary. Of course the former can fit well within some definitions of free will, and is in fact the preferred scenario.
Faith means nothing if you have proof of God.
Faith for no reason means only one thing, your nuts. Having faith in someone/something that you have no reason to believe can be relied upon is not something to be promoted.
Originally posted by SuzianneThat is stupid to have faith in something without proof. Certainly you can have faith that the Sun will appear in the east every morning because of proof that it has done so in the past. You apparently think of faith as jumping off a high mountain with only the belief that you will land safely. A faith of stupidy.
Any proof of God negates Free Will.
Faith means nothing if you have proof of God.
So don't hold your breath waiting for proof of God.
Originally posted by RJHindsIn other words, you did not present any such proof and are perfectly well aware that the videos don't either.
You will have to search through the videos with your head out of your arse to discover the proof of God. Good luck getting it out!
Just admit it already, you saw DNA and thought 'science'.
Originally posted by SuzianneThis implies that there is no free will in heaven.
Any proof of God negates Free Will.
Faith means nothing if you have proof of God.
So don't hold your breath waiting for proof of God.
So if there is no free will in heaven, and yet heaven is a nicer place to be than earth (I assume you believe that to be the case) then free will must not be that essential to our being.
On the other hand, if there is free will in heaven, then proof of God clearly does not negate free will.
The only other options I can think of are
- there is no such thing as heaven
- there is no such thing as free will
--- Penguin.
Originally posted by RJHindsThis thread is bogus. Science as a discipline is committed to naturalistic explanations, period. The problems arise because there are people who don't know or ignore this.
DNA - God's amazing programming; evidence for his existence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBeCxKzYiIA
Information embedded in DNA Proves The Existence of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xr-OgizBg
Scientific Proof of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzetqYev_AI
Originally posted by PenguinSatan the devil, and the third of the angels, now called demons, that he convinced to join him in his rebellion against God proves there is free will in Heaven. So try again. 😏
This implies that there is no free will in heaven.
So if there is no free will in heaven, and yet heaven is a nicer place to be than earth (I assume you believe that to be the case) then free will must not be that essential to our being.
On the other hand, if there is free will in heaven, then proof of God clearly does not negate free will.
The only ...[text shortened]... f are
- there is no such thing as heaven
- there is no such thing as free will
--- Penguin.