27 Jul '05 15:35>
Paraphrasing bbarr (replacing "God" with P, denoting any person)
<b>
(1)
Either P's character is causally sufficient for P to act in the manner he does, or his character is not sufficient.
(2)
If P's character is causally sufficient, then P could not have done otherwise than that which he in fact did.
(3)
If P's character is not causally sufficient for his actions, then P's acts are random.
(4)
Either way, P does not have free will [and hence is not responsible for his acts, in any full-blooded libertarian sense]. </b>
My question is whether premise (3) is true.
(For the sake of simplicity, let's suppose that "character" covers everything of possible causal relevance in a person's current state, dispositional and situational.)
Does an act being undetermined imply that it must be random? If so, what form does the implication take? Is it purely logical, formal conceptual? Or is it instead metaphysical, substantive, and empirical?
A free act, according to libertarianism, is one that is neither determined nor random.
So, are libertarians irrationally failing to recognize that their version of human freedom asks for something that is a logical impossibility (could not exist in any possible world)?
Or are they instead asking for something that could exist (in some possible world), even if the nature of that something is not clear to our limited human faculties?
<b>
(1)
Either P's character is causally sufficient for P to act in the manner he does, or his character is not sufficient.
(2)
If P's character is causally sufficient, then P could not have done otherwise than that which he in fact did.
(3)
If P's character is not causally sufficient for his actions, then P's acts are random.
(4)
Either way, P does not have free will [and hence is not responsible for his acts, in any full-blooded libertarian sense]. </b>
My question is whether premise (3) is true.
(For the sake of simplicity, let's suppose that "character" covers everything of possible causal relevance in a person's current state, dispositional and situational.)
Does an act being undetermined imply that it must be random? If so, what form does the implication take? Is it purely logical, formal conceptual? Or is it instead metaphysical, substantive, and empirical?
A free act, according to libertarianism, is one that is neither determined nor random.
So, are libertarians irrationally failing to recognize that their version of human freedom asks for something that is a logical impossibility (could not exist in any possible world)?
Or are they instead asking for something that could exist (in some possible world), even if the nature of that something is not clear to our limited human faculties?