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Originally posted by DeepThoughtno because its taking an element out of context. When will you realise that you need to fit a profile that has all the constituent parts so as to form a whole? you simply cannot take elements out of context, cook it so that it looks good and then herald it like you have refuted the premise, its nonsense.
Redo those figures as a fraction of world population and then compare the answers with Timur's conflicts.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you are denying Timur killed many millions? It is said he LIKED slaughtering whole populations. Perhaps you didn't know he built pyramids out of the skulls of those he murdered. I think you are in denial about that because it throws a monkey wrench into your end days thing.
Estimated that? conjectured that? you might get away with such loose science in debates, but this is spirituality my friend, we are not interested in what is merely plausible, we are interested in what is true!
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155,000,000Second World War (Some overlap w/Stalin. Includes Sino-Japanese War and Holocaust. Doesn't incl. post-war German e ...[text shortened]... nothing if not accompanied by these other elements.
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Originally posted by sonhouseNo you are creating a strawman argument, I am saying that you need all the elements of Matthew chapter 24 to exist in the same epoch for it to fit the profile. So what that means is that even if Timur killed all the people on the planet except himself he could still not fulfil Matthew chapter 24 because he would have all the food for himself and there would be no famine and thus he could not be said to fit the entire profile that we are looking at. This is the problem of taking an element out of context. For you to open a combination lock all the numbers must be present.
So you are denying Timur killed many millions? It is said he LIKED slaughtering whole populations. Perhaps you didn't know he built pyramids out of the skulls of those he murdered. I think you are in denial about that because it throws a monkey wrench into your end days thing.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhich is why your picnic will never satisfy anybody sir. You are missing a few sandwiches.
No you are creating a strawman argument, I am saying that you need all the elements of Matthew chapter 24 to exist in the same epoch for it to fit the profile. So what that means is that even if Timur killed all the people on the planet except himself he could still not fulfil Matthew chapter 24 because he would have all the food for himself and ther ...[text shortened]... an element out of context. For you to open a combination lock all the numbers must be present.
( Trademark sandwich analogy).
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, the only "profile" that fits recent history is one of less war, less famine and less disease. Maybe there's a prophecy in the Bible as well for people doing better rather than the end times approaching?
no because its taking an element out of context. When will you realise that you need to fit a profile that has all the constituent parts so as to form a whole? you simply cannot take elements out of context, cook it so that it looks good and then herald it like you have refuted the premise, its nonsense.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt is you who is insisting on context free data, not us. The total world population is the context in which those casualty figures need to be assessed.
no because its taking an element out of context. When will you realise that you need to fit a profile that has all the constituent parts so as to form a whole? you simply cannot take elements out of context, cook it so that it looks good and then herald it like you have refuted the premise, its nonsense.
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Originally posted by KazetNagorrayeah right, two world wars and a famine that claimed 40,000,000 million lives, thats just wired to da moon!
Well, the only "profile" that fits recent history is one of less war, less famine and less disease. Maybe there's a prophecy in the Bible as well for people doing better rather than the end times approaching?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, given that 40,000,000 million = 40 British billion or 40 thousand American billion, that is wired to da moon.
yeah right, two world wars and a famine that claimed 40,000,000 million lives, thats just wired to da moon!
Also, the world wars were long before I was born, and I don't see Jesus yet. And that was also long before the earthquakes you claim are special.
Add to that the fact that there is actually no increased seismic activity as was falsely claimed, and your whole story collapses.
Originally posted by twhiteheadNot in HIS mind it doesn't. That's what counts to him.
Yes, given that 40,000,000 million = 40 British billion or 40 thousand American billion, that is wired to da moon.
Also, the world wars were long before I was born, and I don't see Jesus yet. And that was also long before the earthquakes you claim are special.
Add to that the fact that there is actually no increased seismic activity as was falsely claimed, and your whole story collapses.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtPlease we have enough quacks proffering psychological insights on these boards already.
I've always been pretty skeptical of Freud, but I think the part he got right was the theory of psychological projection, and Robbie is a good case example.