09 Dec 22
This is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, but the truth is this:
How does a person desire sex and maintain their faith?
Sex can be the primary reason one feels shame for what they have done, or for the desires they have. Especially when society disagrees with them.
Example: does one desires sex with a 16 year old girl?
How old was Mother Mary?
10 Dec 22
@chaney3 saidNo takers?
This is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, but the truth is this:
How does a person desire sex and maintain their faith?
Sex can be the primary reason one feels shame for what they have done, or for the desires they have. Especially when society disagrees with them.
Example: does one desires sex with a 16 year old girl?
How old was Mother Mary?
It's likely that sexual desires, along with hidden (forbidden) desires are what's behind self loathing and the willingness to deem oneself as evil, and requiring redemption.
10 Dec 22
@chaney3 saidChristian doctrine is very clear on this:
This is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, but the truth is this:
How does a person desire sex and maintain their faith?
Sex can be the primary reason one feels shame for what they have done, or for the desires they have. Especially when society disagrees with them.
Example: does one desires sex with a 16 year old girl?
How old was Mother Mary?
Chastity is the ideal, but for those cannot be chaste, any sexual desire other than for one's spouse for the purpose of procreation is sin.
@chaney3 saidIf you have religious faith that genuinely makes you feel evil and ashamed about sex and sexual desires, I suggest you just live with it.
This is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, but the truth is this:
How does a person desire sex and maintain their faith?
Sex can be the primary reason one feels shame for what they have done, or for the desires they have. Especially when society disagrees with them.
Example: does one desires sex with a 16 year old girl?
How old was Mother Mary?
@chaney3 saidAny and all restraints on human behavior can be attacked and criticized, but if you
This is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, but the truth is this:
How does a person desire sex and maintain their faith?
Sex can be the primary reason one feels shame for what they have done, or for the desires they have. Especially when society disagrees with them.
Example: does one desires sex with a 16 year old girl?
How old was Mother Mary?
remove all of the restraints on human behavior what would you do then when
nothing stops another from acting on any impulse they have at the moment?
Without restraints, nothing would exist everything would fall apart without what
holds them all together. To be in a position without restraints would cause one
to be floating without the ability to move, nothing to walk on, nothing to push
against, without restraints the cells of your body, the very molecules of the whole
the universe would fly apart.
If you now see the need to have them, but next question is who knows enough
to put them in play for human interaction?
10 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidWhat behaviours of yours are restrained?
Any and all restraints on human behavior can be attacked and criticized, but if you
remove all of the restraints on human behavior what would you do then when
nothing stops another from acting on any impulse they have at the moment?
Without restraints, nothing would exist everything would fall apart without what
holds them all together. To be in a position without rest ...[text shortened]... need to have them, but next question is who knows enough
to put them in play for human interaction?
For example.
10 Dec 22
@divegeester saidSaying exactly what I think of someone's behavior as they act like idiots.
What behaviours of yours are restrained?
For example.
10 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidIf these restraints for you must be of a perceived supernatural nature, so be it.
Any and all restraints on human behavior can be attacked and criticized, but if you
remove all of the restraints on human behavior what would you do then when
nothing stops another from acting on any impulse they have at the moment.
Without restraints, nothing would exist everything would fall apart without what
holds them all together. To be in a position without rest ...[text shortened]... the need to have them, but next question is who knows enough
to put them in play for human action?
10 Dec 22
@divegeester saidYou get me restrained, so it does work, what I end up saying more times than not
Obviously doesn’t work then, does it?
are water-down versions of what I would say if I were to speak freely, and many
times I do not even go close to the things I could say. My tone and verbiage would
be riddled with personal name-calling attacking the person, not the things that are
done and said, bringing up historical faults at every turn, and on and on.
I guess it would make me sound more like you, but I have to acknowledge I'd be
much worse. Restraining ourselves from what we think and do are part of the
reality we live in, you may give yourself credit for your restraint and in doing so
condemn yourself for your lack of restraint as well. Am I always good at this, I'd
say no, obviously.
10 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidAnd yet you still say some of the most unpleasant things one Christian could say to another.
You get me restrained, so it does work, what I end up saying more times than not
are water-down versions of what I would say if I were to speak freely, and many
times I do not even go close to the things I could say.
Sorry, I’m not impressed with your sanctimony KellyJay.
10 Dec 22
@divegeester saidThis is not meant to be a "pervy" issue.
Please keep your pervy issues to yourself.
When Adam and Eve hid from God, it wasn't because they were ashamed of their disobedience, it was because they realized that they were naked. That always puzzled me, because right from the beginning, nakedness was something to be ashamed of.
10 Dec 22
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@divegeester saidDon’t care. We are talking about standards and faith and my point is without them it all falls apart. It is built into creation from molecules to human interactions your approval of me personally is not important or required.
And yet you still say some of the most unpleasant things one Christian could say to another.
Sorry, I’m not impressed with your sanctimony KellyJay.