1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    07 Feb '07 16:27
    Paul gives us advise on having sex as a Christian in Marriage.
    It is ok as a married couple to have sex not to make children out of it.
    These verses are really straight forward and don't need to be anwsered with a question.
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    1 Corinthians 7
    Instruction on Marriage
    1 Now regarding the questions you asked in your letter. Yes, it is good to live a celibate life.[a] 2 But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband.
    3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.

    5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 But I wish everyone were single, just as I am. But God gives to some the gift of marriage, and to others the gift of singleness.

    8 So I say to those who aren’t married and to widows—it’s better to stay unmarried, just as I am. 9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust.

    10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord.[b] A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife.

    12 Now, I will speak to the rest of you, though I do not have a direct command from the Lord. If a Christian man[c] has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to continue living with him, he must not leave her. 13 And if a Christian woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him. 14 For the Christian wife brings holiness to her marriage, and the Christian husband[d] brings holiness to his marriage. Otherwise, your children would not be holy, but now they are holy. 15 (But if the husband or wife who isn’t a believer insists on leaving, let them go. In such cases the Christian husband or wife[e] is no longer bound to the other, for God has called you[f] to live in peace.) 16 Don’t you wives realize that your husbands might be saved because of you? And don’t you husbands realize that your wives might be saved because of you?

    17 Each of you should continue to live in whatever situation the Lord has placed you, and remain as you were when God first called you. This is my rule for all the churches. 18 For instance, a man who was circumcised before he became a believer should not try to reverse it. And the man who was uncircumcised when he became a believer should not be circumcised now. 19 For it makes no difference whether or not a man has been circumcised. The important thing is to keep God’s commandments.

    20 Yes, each of you should remain as you were when God called you. 21 Are you a slave? Don’t let that worry you—but if you get a chance to be free, take it. 22 And remember, if you were a slave when the Lord called you, you are now free in the Lord. And if you were free when the Lord called you, you are now a slave of Christ. 23 God paid a high price for you, so don’t be enslaved by the world.[g] 24 Each of you, dear brothers and sisters,[h] should remain as you were when God first called you.

    25 Now regarding your question about the young women who are not yet married. I do not have a command from the Lord for them. But the Lord in his mercy has given me wisdom that can be trusted, and I will share it with you. 26 Because of the present crisis,[i] I think it is best to remain as you are. 27 If you have a wife, do not seek to end the marriage. If you do not have a wife, do not seek to get married. 28 But if you do get married, it is not a sin. And if a young woman gets married, it is not a sin. However, those who get married at this time will have troubles, and I am trying to spare you those problems.

    29 But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short. So from now on, those with wives should not focus only on their marriage. 30 Those who weep or who rejoice or who buy things should not be absorbed by their weeping or their joy or their possessions. 31 Those who use the things of the world should not become attached to them. For this world as we know it will soon pass away.

    32 I want you to be free from the concerns of this life. An unmarried man can spend his time doing the Lord’s work and thinking how to please him. 33 But a married man has to think about his earthly responsibilities and how to please his wife. 34 His interests are divided. In the same way, a woman who is no longer married or has never been married can be devoted to the Lord and holy in body and in spirit. But a married woman has to think about her earthly responsibilities and how to please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your benefit, not to place restrictions on you. I want you to do whatever will help you serve the Lord best, with as few distractions as possible.

    36 But if a man thinks that he’s treating his fiancée improperly and will inevitably give in to his passion, let him marry her as he wishes. It is not a sin. 37 But if he has decided firmly not to marry and there is no urgency and he can control his passion, he does well not to marry. 38 So the person who marries his fiancée does well, and the person who doesn’t marry does even better.

    39 A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but only if he loves the Lord.[j] 40 But in my opinion it would be better for her to stay single, and I think I am giving you counsel from God’s Spirit when I say this.
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    So basically whenever you don't want sex and your married partner does you sould just do it, as Nike says.
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    I find this all very relevant and informative. Who better to seek answers on the complexity of marriage than a 2000 year old corpse who was never married. I wonder what Paul would prescribe to those husbands and wives who endure endless abuse at the hands of their spouses.

    Also, LOL @ "But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short."
  3. Standard memberRBHILL
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    07 Feb '07 16:57
    Originally posted by darvlay

    Also, LOL @ "But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short."
    Once again a 1,000 years is like a day to the Lord.
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    07 Feb '07 16:58
    Originally posted by darvlay
    I wonder what Paul would prescribe to those husbands and wives who endure endless abuse at the hands of their spouses.
    You know people can be forgiven.
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    07 Feb '07 17:03
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Once again a 1,000 years is like a day to the Lord.
    Once again: You're an idiot.
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    07 Feb '07 17:12
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Once again: You're an idiot.
    Twice again: He's an idiot.
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    07 Feb '07 17:53
    From a Xtian perspective, are oral and anal acceptable? bondage?
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    07 Feb '07 17:54
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    From a Xtian perspective, are oral and anal acceptable? bondage?
    Seed placement?
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    07 Feb '07 17:57
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    From a Xtian perspective, are oral and anal acceptable? bondage?
    Well from point no. 3 above:

    3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.

    it sounds like its not only acceptable but expected even.
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    07 Feb '07 17:59
    Why was Onan struck down?
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    07 Feb '07 18:02
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Why was Onan struck down?
    Onan who? Onan the Arbarian?
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    07 Feb '07 18:11
    Originally posted by klopdisselboom
    Onan who? Onan the Arbarian?
    The story of Onan is found in the Bible in Genesis 38:1-10. Onan did coitus interruptus while consummating his Levirate marriage (Yibbum) and was slain by God.
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    07 Feb '07 19:27
    Originally posted by darvlay
    I find this all very relevant and informative. Who better to seek answers on the complexity of marriage than a 2000 year old corpse who was never married. I wonder what Paul would prescribe to those husbands and wives who endure endless abuse at the hands of their spouses.

    Also, LOL @ "But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short."
    Because of things Jesus said, they thought his return and the end times were going to happen in their lifetime. Paul, who never met Jesus as far as we know, based his opinions on that. If you are expecting the Messiah to return in a year or so, your advice (such as staying unmarried) would be different from the advice you'd give if you knew there were a minimum of 2000 years ahead of you.


    I'm not sure what he'd say, but unfortunately a lot of morons throughout history (including currently) insist that the couple stay together. I would suggest that those people enjoy that same special section of hell as is reserved for those who moved certain priests from parish to parish...assuming there is a hell ...
    😕
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    07 Feb '07 20:01
    For another look at these issues, see Thread 62165
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    07 Feb '07 20:05
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Once again a 1,000 years is like a day to the Lord.
    So, twenty times a day wouldn't be excessive.
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