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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
(1:11-13)
"Let the earth bring forth grass"
Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). Notice, though, that God lets "the earth bring forth" the plants, rather than creating them directly. Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.


Edit: That's enough for now.
Could that not mean? That God spoke and things were done. GOD does not create according to our understanding. HE creates according to HIS Wisdom and HIS Understanding. If there was any type of evolution. It was evolution that was created by GOD. Created according to the Wisdom and Understanding of GOD.

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Originally posted by Halitose
Erm... Lower water = ocean. Higher water = Water vapour in the form of clouds.

Some creationists use this as a basis for the "vapour canopy" theory which supposedly collapsed during the flood.
THE WORD clearly says in GENESIS 2:6. That there was a mist that came up from the earth. That watered the entire earth. There is no "vapour canopy theory" or the collapse of said theory. That I donot believe is from the WORD OF GOD. That seems to be a Sciencetific theory.

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Originally posted by blindfaith101
THE WORD clearly says in GENESIS 2:6. That there was a mist that came up from the earth. That watered the entire earth. There is no "vapour canopy theory" or the collapse of said theory. That I donot believe is from the WORD OF GOD. That seems to be a Sciencetific theory.
I think that I literally get a bit dumber when I read this, or any one of your posts. Can you at least try?

"That seems to be a Sciencetific theory."

For the love of GOD, if you're going to argue against something, at least make sure you spell it correctly...

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
What happened to the solid firmament that separated them? What need for a solid firmament to separate ocean and clouds in the first place?

I seem to recall that belief in the solid firmament persisted until the likes of Copernicus debunked it.
GENESIS 1:6-8
Does not THE BIBLE say that there is a firmament. that was in the mist of the waters. Above and under the firmament. Which divided the waters from the waters. There is nothing in THE BIBLE that's states that this firmament was solid. In fact the firmament was called heaven by GOD.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Perhaps the firmament had windows?

“Let there be a firmament to separate the waters from the waters” (Genesis 1:6). Exactly what did the biblical writers picture when they had God create “the firmament”? They must have been thinking of something like a giant version of the Astrodome. The “firmament,” as the very word, containing the element “firm,” ...[text shortened]... which denotes “a dome beaten out of metal sheets.”
http://www.infidelguy.com/heaven_sky.htm[/b]
All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 TIMOTHY 3:16.
Those BIBLICAL Writers inspired by THE HOLY SPIRIT, to write what GOD gave them to write. They accepted and believed what THE HOLY SPIRIT gave them without question. Were they not in the frame of mind to let the HOLY SPIRIT work with them, which gave them the faith to do so.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
"Sciencetific"...brilliant.

Absolutely brilliant.

You're not the best ambassador for your beliefs.
No THE WORD OF GOD, is the best ambassador whether you accept it or not.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Perhaps the firmament had windows?

“Let there be a firmament to separate the waters from the waters” (Genesis 1:6). Exactly what did the biblical writers picture when they had God create “the firmament”? They must have been thinking of something like a giant version of the Astrodome. The “firmament,” as the very word, containing the element “firm,” ...[text shortened]... which denotes “a dome beaten out of metal sheets.”
http://www.infidelguy.com/heaven_sky.htm[/b]
The firmament does have windows such that are mention in the Bible.
GENESIS 7:11
GENESIS 8:2
2 KINGS 7:2,19
MALACHI 3:10

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Originally posted by blindfaith101
The firmament does have windows such that are mention in the Bible.
GENESIS 7:11
GENESIS 8:2
2 KINGS 7:2,19
MALACHI 3:10
Nothing can de-interestify a thread quicker than copious input from BF101.

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Maybe some one would like to purchase Jason Gastrich's "Skeptics Annoted Bible: Corrected and Explained."

I've had an oppurnity to read some selections from this text. What I read there as well as JG's performance in online debates leads me to believe that he is an xian conman. Nevertheless, I'm sure he'd be right up a few peoples' alleys here.

You know this thread reminds me to count my blessings: No word from Darfius in months.

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Originally posted by blindfaith101
The firmament does have windows such that are mention in the Bible.
Thanks for your input, BF. I assume that you'd attribute our inability to perceive the firmament, or its windows, to sensory incapacity on our part rather than any inaccuracy in the Bible. I think it's fair to say the same goes for the rest of the scientific objections--our science simply isn't up to scratch when it comes to explaining what the Bible reveals.

If no literalist can mount an argument different to BF's (specifically, an argument based on human science), I will assume that he speaks for you all, and declare this thread dead dead dead dead.

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Originally posted by telerion
Maybe some one would like to purchase Jason Gastrich's "Skeptics Annoted Bible: Corrected and Explained."
Could you provide a representative extract?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Thanks for your input, BF. I assume that you'd attribute our inability to perceive the firmament, or its windows, to sensory incapacity on our part rather than any inaccuracy in the Bible. I think it's fair to say the same goes for the rest of the scientific objections--our science simply isn't up to scratch when it comes to explaining what the Bibl ...[text shortened]... science), I will assume that he speaks for you all, and declare this thread dead dead dead dead.
This thread was doomed from the start IMO. Figurative language is inherent to communication.

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Originally posted by Halitose
This thread was doomed from the start IMO.
Confidentially, I'm quite glad. I think the point's been made, though, don't you?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Confidentially, I'm quite glad. I think the point's been made, though, don't you?
You don't mind do you, telling what was the point?