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    By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.


    Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?
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    20 Aug '17 06:47
    Originally posted by @eladar
    [b]By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.


    Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?[/b]
    Unrepentant sinners, is what you meant to say, no doubt.

    You need to stop holding our Lord to the standards of men.

    It makes you seem desperate to present God as somehow subject to the judgement of men.
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    20 Aug '17 07:061 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    It makes you seem desperate to present God as somehow subject to the judgement of men.
    If he wants me to worship him, then I take my right to judge him.
    Take it or leave it, god!
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    20 Aug '17 07:514 edits
    Originally posted by @eladar
    [b]By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.


    Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?[/b]
    According to Ezekiel 16:49 the root cause of Sodom's sin was her conservative ways of indulgence in greed, complacency and indifferent and apathetic neglect of some of here less fortunate citizens. That seems to be where it all started.

    So beware.

    Ezekiel 16:49

    American Standard Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    King James 2000 Bible
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    American King James Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
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    20 Aug '17 08:03
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
    If he wants me to worship him, then I take my right to judge him.
    Take it or leave it, god!
    God expects that men will judge Him according to the Bible.
    But you, unlike Him, are not a total master of all of the facts.

    So judge away like the New Testament predicts men will.

    Romans 3:4 [Their bolding]

    New American Standard Bible
    May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, "THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED."

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    God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
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    20 Aug '17 08:44
    Originally posted by @sonship
    God expects that men will judge Him according to the Bible.
    Then, so I will.

    God is a psychotic mass murderer. That's is only a good start. More to come if anyone asks.
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    20 Aug '17 09:452 edits
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
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    Then, so I will.


    Of course you will.
    We all will, and do.

    However, God conducts what mankind usually calls "the last judgment".
    You WILL judge.
    Me too.

    But we will not be the last to pronounce judgement.


    God is a psychotic mass murderer. That's is only a good start. More to come if anyone asks.


    And right now I judge you as a Richard Dawkins wannabe.
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    20 Aug '17 10:15
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Unrepentant sinners, is what you meant to say, no doubt.

    You need to stop holding our Lord to the standards of men.

    It makes you seem desperate to present God as somehow subject to the judgement of men.
    Do you think the infants that inhabited these cities were unrepentant sinners?
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    20 Aug '17 10:222 edits
    Originally posted by @sonship
    According to Ezekiel 16:49 the root cause of Sodom's sin was her conservative ways of indulgence in greed, complacency and indifferent and apathetic neglect of some of here less fortunate citizens.
    Are you suggesting that the citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah were Republicans (in terms of their political mindset) and that is why god judged and destroyed them?
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    20 Aug '17 10:26
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Of course you will. We all will, and do.
    You WILL judge. Me too.
    But we will not be the [b]last
    to pronounce judgement.
    And right now I judge you as a Richard Dawkins wannabe.[/b]
    Me, Richard Dawkins wannabe? Oh, you're flattering me! 😏

    I let god judge me if I want to.
    First I have to recognize him. I don't.

    Of the exact the same reason I don't recognize Odin, Kahli, Zeus, Santa, tooth fairy, nor Trump as a deity. Anyone can show himself/herself to me as a god. Noone does. End of story.
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    20 Aug '17 11:07
    Originally posted by @sonship
    And right now I judge you as a Richard Dawkins wannabe.
    What kind of wannabe do all your other-people's-ideas rote-learned walls of text make you, sonship?
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    20 Aug '17 13:341 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Unrepentant sinners, is what you meant to say, no doubt.

    You need to stop holding our Lord to the standards of men.

    It makes you seem desperate to present God as somehow subject to the judgement of men.
    Babies are unrepentant sinners? All they do is eat, poop and sleep.

    Oh and you did not answer the question, was Jesus part of it?
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    20 Aug '17 16:431 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Babies are unrepentant sinners? All they do is eat, poop and sleep.

    Oh and you did not answer the question, was Jesus part of it?
    I said what I said, take it or leave it as you will.

    I do not understand why you presume to judge God by the standards of man.
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    20 Aug '17 16:471 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    I said what I said, take it or leave it as you will.

    I do not understand why you presume to judge God by the standards of man.
    I am just being consistent with your point of view.

    When I state what the Bible says you call me a racist, a bigot and all sorts of negative human terms.
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    20 Aug '17 16:51
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Do you think the infants that inhabited these cities were unrepentant sinners?
    You don't believe the stories in the first place, yet you're so quick to believe children were there at all.
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