@fmf saidI think it is the “only” in this sentence that I object to - as I think you do too, i.e. we should NOT define spirituality merely as that.
FMF: ...to define "spirituality" as being only about speculation about supernatural things and talking about divine instructions etc...
Of course, Spirituality does include at least some speculation about the supernatural. In this context I like this quote by Max Planck:
All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force.... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter
The other quote by Ken Wilber seems to imply that even for totally materialistic atheists, there is a sense that certain things like beauty, goodness, truth, are more important than wealth and possessions and the physical universe. For them, this then, is the spiritual element of humanity that cannot (easily) be described in physical and measurable terms.
Would you agree with this enlarged concept of Spirituality?
(Btw, I largely agree with your earlier post that all that is spiritual, by definition must emanate from the spirit of man.)
@caljust saidI would assert that man is the channel through that which is spiritual flows.
(Btw, I largely agree with your earlier post that all that is spiritual, by definition must emanate from the spirit of man.)
As the quote from Max Planck suggests: "All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force.... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter".
The matter of what constitutes truth relative to spirituality becomes very complicated considering the divergence of beliefs. Deception appears to be a factor.