Originally posted by divegeester Dasa definitely did say that on several occasions; seeing rvsakhadeo state it again here (even though he seems to adopt a less hard-line approach), does seem to reaffirm that the Vedic philosophy requires a person to have a certain level of intelligence in order to enter in. I find this revealing of the temporal origin and orientation of the dogma; more of a humanistic philosophy than a spiritual experience.
That's not quite true.There are many different aspects of Vedic lterature. They cover not only religon and philisophy, but a great range of everyday-life teachings. Not all of which you have to be "intelligent" to understand. There are many everyday, simple tachings such as in the areas of health/medicine, agriculture,etc.
Originally posted by divegeester So you are in fact aligned with dasa, who proclaims that the unintelligent cannot access the Vedic wisdom. This is a sad and cruel philosophy; it reminds me of a Mormon person I once knew who believed that mentality handicapped people could not enter the kingdom of God because they could not understand the message.
Yourself and FMF have totally misunderstood me. The upanishad uses the words " intelligence " and " intelligent people " as that quality of those who are not misled by the manifest reality. Those whose curiosity is like Nachiketa's curiosity. Nothing to do with the IQ of any poster here. Let us not create issues where there are none. Pl.give a thought to what is contained in the story.
Originally posted by divegeester So you are in fact aligned with dasa, who proclaims that the unintelligent cannot access the Vedic wisdom. This is a sad and cruel philosophy; it reminds me of a Mormon person I once knew who believed that mentality handicapped people could not enter the kingdom of God because they could not understand the message.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeo Yourself and FMF have totally misunderstood me. The upanishad uses the words " intelligence " and " intelligent people " as that quality of those who are not misled by the manifest reality. Those whose curiosity is like Nachiketa's curiosity. Nothing to do with the IQ of any poster here. Let us not create issues where there are none. Pl.give a thought to what is contained in the story.
Originally posted by divegeester That is what is quoted in the OP and verified by rvsakhadeo on page one. Dasa is also a proponent of this. Are you more of a Vedic expert than dasa?
I am not an expert, far from it on vedic lterature. I'm sure both dasa and rvsakhadeo are more knowledgable than me about the vedas.