1. Standard memberDasa
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    Spirituality

    Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual teacher. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realised soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp4. verse34

    Having obtained real knowledge fom a self-realized soul, you will never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will see that all living beings are part of the Supreme, or in other words that they are mine.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp4. verse 35

    Even if you are considered to be the most sinfull of sinners, when you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be able to cross the ocean of miseries.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp 4. verse 36

    As a fire turns firewood to ashes, so does the fire of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities.

    Bhagavad Gita chp4. verse 37

    In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature friut of mysticism.And anyone who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service, enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp4. verse 38

    A faithfull man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who subdues his senses, is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace.

    Bhagavad Gita Cht4 verse 39

    But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures (Vedanta) do not attain God consciouness: they fall down, For the douting soul there is happiness neither in this world or the next.

    Bhagavad Gita Cht 4. verse 40


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    25 Jul '10 09:10
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Spirituality

    Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual teacher. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realised soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp4. verse34

    Having obtained real knowledge fom a self-realized soul, you will never fall again into such illusi ...[text shortened]... ere is happiness neither in this world or the next.

    Bhagavad Gita Cht 4. verse 40


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    Are you going to go through the whole of 2010 only having one thought per day?
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    25 Jul '10 16:25
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Spirituality

    Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual teacher. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realised soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.

    Bhagavad Gita Chp4. verse34

    Having obtained real knowledge fom a self-realized soul, you will never fall again into such illusi ...[text shortened]... ere is happiness neither in this world or the next.

    Bhagavad Gita Cht 4. verse 40


    Vishva
    "But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures (Vedanta) do not attain God consciouness"

    And after that you still pretend not being religious ?

    And in what way are your "revealed scriptures" any better from other (similar?) ones (bible, quran, etc)
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    25 Jul '10 16:58
    Originally posted by shorbock
    "But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures (Vedanta) do not attain God consciouness"

    And after that you still pretend not being religious ?

    And in what way are your "revealed scriptures" any better from other (similar?) ones (bible, quran, etc)
    The Bible is not the pure teacings of Jesus, because his words were doctored to suit the agenda of the ruling class at the time of compiling the Bible, the Bible does not even mention the eternal quality of the soul, but instead christians believe that the soul is created at birth, which is erroneous,, because the soul is eternal and never created.

    As for the Koran, it is the ramblings of an egotistical self imposed meglamaniac.

    As for religion verse spirituality, i am trying to present pure spirituality, without the shackles of erroneous religious beliefs being associated with it, because religion today is like a dirty word because of all the nonsense beliefs accepted as truth.

    If anything, spirituality is the real religion, and if it is, then i am religious, but only in that context.

    vishva
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    25 Jul '10 17:51
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    If anything, spirituality is the real religion, and if it is, then i am religious, but only in that context.
    Every theist claims that their religion is the real religion. Sadly, they never seem to have anything other than self confidence to back that up.
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    25 Jul '10 17:54
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    .....the soul is eternal and never created.
    So you are saying that beside god which is eternal and never created there are a bunch of souls also eternal and never created? .... it's getting more and more complicated.
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    25 Jul '10 18:31
    Originally posted by danielnovacovici
    So you are saying that beside god which is eternal and never created there are a bunch of souls also eternal and never created? .... it's getting more and more complicated.
    God is infinite, and there are infinite souls....and there are infinite places for the soul to be born.

    In this universe there are trillions and trillions of planets, and then there are trillions and trillions of universes.......and then there is the infinite spiritual realm with no end.

    Not complicated!

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    25 Jul '10 18:411 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Every theist claims that their religion is the real religion. Sadly, they never seem to have anything other than self confidence to back that up.
    The fact that there is some counterfit money, means there must be the real thing (money), somewhere.

    So there are so many bogus religions, but there is only one true/perfect religion.

    The Vedanta teachings (spiritual teachings) or religious teachings if your stuck on that word.......have been with mankind since creation, but Islam/chistianity/ buddhism are recent creations from men.

    You go off and read the entire Vedanta teachings and then compare with the religions of the world, and you will see there is no comparison.

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    25 Jul '10 18:42
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    God is infinite, and there are infinite souls....and there are infinite places for the soul to be born.

    In this universe there are trillions and trillions of planets, and then there are trillions and trillions of universes.......and then there is the infinite spiritual realm with no end.

    Not complicated!

    vishva
    Just imaginary.

    So in your previous life, you might have been an amoeba in some other universe?
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    25 Jul '10 18:46
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Just imaginary.

    So in your previous life, you might have been an amoeba in some other universe?
    In a past life Yes! but not recent past life.

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    25 Jul '10 18:48
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    The fact that there is some counterfit money, means there must be the real thing (money), somewhere.

    So there are so many bogus religions, but there is only one true/perfect religion.

    The Vedanta teachings (spiritual teachings) or religious teachings if your stuck on that word.......have been with mankind since creation, but Islam/chistianity/ buddh ...[text shortened]... hen compare with the religions of the world, and you will see there is no comparison.

    vishva
    Who wrote the Upanishads then?
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    25 Jul '10 19:25
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    God is infinite, and there are infinite souls....and there are infinite places for the soul to be born.

    In this universe there are trillions and trillions of planets, and then there are trillions and trillions of universes.......and then there is the infinite spiritual realm with no end.

    Not complicated!

    vishva
    You are contradicting yourself saying that there are infinite places for souls to be born and then counting those places....trillions and trillions of universes with trillions and trillions of planets. How much may this sound is surely different from infinite.
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    26 Jul '10 03:32
    Originally posted by danielnovacovici
    You are contradicting yourself saying that there are infinite places for souls to be born and then counting those places....trillions and trillions of universes with trillions and trillions of planets. How much may this sound is surely different from infinite.
    I also said that the spiritual realm has no end (means infinite) and I couldnt think of a big number so i said trillions....but in fact there are unlimited universes and planets.

    In the Vedanta teachings it says "unlimited" which is as good as infinite.

    My error with the use of words.

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    26 Jul '10 03:45
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Who wrote the Upanishads then?
    For what its worth, because I dont know what you will do with the answer, the Upanisads are spiritual discussions that took place (long time ago) between Sages to students, and Sages to Sages, and they were compiled along with all the other Vedic teachings by Srila Vyasadava, who is the literary incarnation of God, but he didnt put pen to paper, it was Ganesh who did the writing.

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    26 Jul '10 05:05
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    The fact that there is some counterfit money, means there must be the real thing (money), somewhere.

    So there are so many bogus religions, but there is only one true/perfect religion.
    That conclusion does not follow. It is a poor analogy. It a assumes that all religions are counterfeit (imitations of a true religion) then concludes that assumption. Thats circular logic.

    The Vedanta teachings (spiritual teachings) or religious teachings if your stuck on that word.......have been with mankind since creation, but Islam/chistianity/ buddhism are recent creations from men.
    I don't believe you.

    You go off and read the entire Vedanta teachings and then compare with the religions of the world, and you will see there is no comparison.
    So say all religious people about their chosen manuscripts. But why should I go to the trouble of reading these manuscripts based on the advice of someone who is clearly ignorant of science, history, and other religions? Someone who lies at the drop of the hat and deliberately and maliciously spreads lies about other religions and about science.
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