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Undeclared turnover?
That sounds like a accountant's term. I am not familiar with it.
I would say that one of the most consistent evidences that something is up in my Christian life is the clockwork regularity with which supply of our needs follows upon cheerful giving to the practical financial needs of God's work.
I am not as consistent as my wife. I learned from my wife. But for the one willing to give from the wealth God has permitted one to make, blessing to supply comes in most consistently.
If a believer learns this lesson early, she or he will notice that the evidence of something working in the backround becomes very commonplace.
I think it starts with thanksgiving to God. When you go off to work you should realize that it is God who allows you to have the health to be able to do so. And you thank Him.
I mean, your good mind, the use of your limbs, your vision, all these things which allow you to make a living, you can thank God for. When you can really grasp this then you can cheerfully give to some need for His work, in faith. And He sees that and supplies you in ways you would never expect.
The supply may come as money. But it can also come in gifts, better prices, practical need met somehow. I mean Jesus did say that the very hairs on our head were all numbered.
If you pluck out a hair, God knows, for example, that that was hair number 236,822. I'm serious. He knows our need.
"But even the hairs on your head have all been numbered. Do not be afraid; you are of more value than many sparrows." (Luke 12:7)
"Are not two sparrows sold for an assarion? And not one of them will fall to the earth apart from your Father. But even the hairs on your head are all numbered. Therefore do not fear; you are of more value than many sparrows." (Matthew 10:29-31)
His knowledge of us and our needs is divinely and extensively thorough. So in cheerful faith we can give something of our wealth.
It is not always easy. I am still growing and learning in this area after many many years. It takes grace from God.
Originally posted by sonshipUndeclared turnover is a form of tax evasion which provides income that does not appear in the accounts.Undeclared turnover?
That sounds like a accountant's term. I am not familiar with it.
I would say that one of the most consistent evidences that something is up in my Christian life is the clockwork regularity with which supply of our needs follows upon cheerful giving to the practical financial needs of God's work.
I am not a ...[text shortened]... m still growing and learning in this area after many many years. It takes grace from God.
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Originally posted by OdBodMaybe governments will move to outlaw such heavenly benefits as "tax evasion." Then they can next go work on an "Act of God" property insurance loss. Maybe get the Creator into court?
Undeclared turnover is a form of tax evasion which provides income that does not appear in the accounts.
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Originally posted by sonshipI guess your wife must be like my wife, because she is the constant giver for church affairs. I tend to give more to the homeless, the begger on the street, and food and blood banks.Undeclared turnover?
That sounds like a accountant's term. I am not familiar with it.
I would say that one of the most consistent evidences that something is up in my Christian life is the clockwork regularity with which supply of our needs follows upon cheerful giving to the practical financial needs of God's work.
I am not a ...[text shortened]... m still growing and learning in this area after many many years. It takes grace from God.
Originally posted by sonshipOne of your statements in your post seems to suggest that if you give cheerfully to to the "practical financial needs of gods work" your needs will be met.How could a starving African child get in on this arrangement or does your god only extend this facility to those who have something to give to that gods representatives on earth?Undeclared turnover?
That sounds like a accountant's term. I am not familiar with it.
I would say that one of the most consistent evidences that something is up in my Christian life is the clockwork regularity with which supply of our needs follows upon cheerful giving to the practical financial needs of God's work.
I am not a ...[text shortened]... m still growing and learning in this area after many many years. It takes grace from God.
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Originally posted by OdBodthere are better and essentially legal ways to appropriate profit without resorting to illegal activities, provisions for depreciation are one. After all, which business actually appropriates profit for a rainy day when its plant, machinery, furnishings etc depreciate to having little value? If the business is profitable then its much better to procure a loan or lease the necessary equipment without having to pay maintenance costs and yet provisions for depreciation appear in most accounts, as if monies had actually been put aside, when in fact its nothing more than an appropriation of profit.
Undeclared turnover is a form of tax evasion which provides income that does not appear in the accounts.
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Originally posted by OdBodI don't see a requirement to always give money. I think there are other gifts that can be given to God that He may be pleased with even more than money. We can always give of or time and our love.
One of your statements in your post seems to suggest that if you give cheerfully to to the "practical financial needs of gods work" your needs will be met.How could a starving African child get in on this arrangement or does your god only extend this facility to those who have something to give to that gods representatives on earth?
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Gory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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Originally posted by OdBod
One of your statements in your post seems to suggest that if you give cheerfully to to the "practical financial needs of gods work" your needs will be met.How could a starving African child get in on this arrangement or does your god only extend this facility to those who have something to give to that gods representatives on earth?
"One of your statements in your post seems ..."
Everything beyond this point was warped anti-theist nonsense.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieNow, I think I have cut you quite a bit of slack on these forums, but if you are going to have a pop at accounting standards then it is going to get personal.
there are better and essentially legal ways to appropriate profit without resorting to illegal activities, provisions for depreciation are one. After all, which business actually appropriates profit for a rainy day when its plant, machinery, furnishings etc depreciate to having little value? If the business is profitable then its much better to pro ...[text shortened]... nies had actually been put aside, when in fact its nothing more than an appropriation of profit.
And that really was a load of old cobblers.
Rank outsider ACA
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Also, OdBod's comments were about tax dodging and depreciation is not allowable as a deduction for corporate tax purposes.
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Originally posted by Rank outsiderRather interestingly, when I was studying accounts with regard to my own business
Now, I think I have cut you quite a bit of slack on these forums, but if you are going to have a pop at accounting standards then it is going to get personal.
And that really was a load of old cobblers.
Rank outsider ACA
🙂
Also, OdBod's comments were about tax dodging and depreciation is not allowable as a deduction for corporate tax purposes.
as a private student my lecturer at Cumberland college said roughly the same thing
when I raised the issue with him,
Depreciation should never appear in a profit and loss account
It is a book entry which has been used recklessly in the pursuit of profit
adjustment. It is not recognised by the Taxation authorities. - Profit and losses
examined and explained - M Telles Langdon and Kamran Rizvi
The authors cite the following case,
An appropriate example of the mechanics of depreciation was revealed in relation to
British Telecom. There was a revision of accounting policies in preparation for
privatisation with the result that it stopped charging 'supplementary depreciation', on
its assets which added £600,000,000 to its profit figure.
Cobblers? I don't think so, you know its true. Shall I find other examples where the
provision for depreciation has been used to manipulate profits Lord Vader?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieManipulating the use of depreciation is not the same issue as whether the concept of depreciation is valid. If you had meant the former, you should have said.
Rather interestingly, when I was studying accounts with regard to my own business
as a private student my lecturer at Cumberland college said roughly the same thing
when I raised the issue with him,
Depreciation should never appear in a profit and loss account
It is a book entry which has been used recklessly in the pursuit of profit
adj amples where the
provision for depreciation has been used to manipulate profits Lord Vader?
Much to learn you still have my old padawan.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderSure thing, we are agreed on something. I apologise if I gave the impression that depreciation in itself was not a valid accounting entry, this was not my intent.
Manipulating the use of depreciation is not the same issue as whether the concept of depreciation is valid.
Much to learn you still have my old padawan.