1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    05 Mar '05 07:08
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Let us suppose God has feelings.

    If man has the power to change God's feelings, then man is more powerful than God with respect to controlling God's feelings. Since there exists a power that man has and God doesn't, God cannot be omnipotent.
    I see and you know this because of your experience with the
    omnipotent over how long?
    Kelly
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    05 Mar '05 14:30
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I see and you know this because of your experience with the
    omnipotent over how long?
    Kelly
    Ever since they were defined to be "having all powers" or "being all powerful".
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    05 Mar '05 15:04
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Ever since they were defined to be "having all powers" or "being all powerful".
    Okay, having all power and being all powerful, has what to do with pain?
    Kelly
  4. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    05 Mar '05 15:10
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Okay, having all power and being all powerful, has what to do with pain?
    Kelly
    You told me pain was a feeling.

    You told me that man has the power to impose that feeling upon God, for example
    by failing to remember the Sabbath.

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    05 Mar '05 15:27
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    You told me pain was a feeling.

    You told me that man has the power to impose that feeling upon God, for example
    by failing to remember the Sabbath.

    No I said that God could feel pain, His caring for His own is enough to
    cause it. It isn't like inflicting pain upon God during an attack.
    Kelly
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    05 Mar '05 15:321 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    No I said that God could feel pain, His caring for His own is enough to
    cause it.
    So, are you now saying that I don't cause God to feel pain when I fail to remember the Sabbath?

    Are you saying that I do not hold the power to cause God pain in my decision to obey or defy his commandments?

    Are you saying that God always feels pain, by virtue of his constant caring for me, and that I can do nothing to increase or relieve that pain?

    Should a being that always feels pain qualify as perfect?
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    05 Mar '05 15:34
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    So, are you now saying that I don't cause God to feel pain when I fail to remember the Sabbath?

    Are you saying that I do not hold the power to cause God pain in my decision to obey or defy his commandments?

    Are you saying that God always feels pain, by virtue of his constant caring for me, and that I can do nothing to increase or relieve that pain?

    Should a being that always feels pain qualify as perfect?
    I never said that I caused God to feel pain when I fail to remember
    the Sabbath, you did.

    I'd say someone who does not feel for another is not perfect, but
    a rock or something dead inside.

    Kelly
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    05 Mar '05 15:451 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I never said that I caused God to feel pain when I fail to remember
    the Sabbath, you did.
    Oops, you're right, you never said that.

    I never said it either, though. In fact, I denied it, saying that I don't believe
    my forgetting the Sabbath necessarily causes pain to anybody.

    RBHILL is the one that made the claim that God feels pain when His
    commandments are broken. I took your first post here as an implicit
    adoption of his position.

    It's hard to keep the record straight when Ivanhoe intervenes with his
    childish outbursts.
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    13 May '05 19:03
    Waiting to see how long the f-bomb will remain in publication above. 😉

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    13 May '05 19:20
    Originally posted by TheSkipper
    Waiting to see how long the f-bomb will remain in publication above. 😉

    TheSkipper
    Do you recall a time when Robodmod automatically censored Nemesio from saying modicum? My, how times have changed.
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    The Ancients would copulate en masse in their fields to promote a fertile crop, where have we gone wrong?😛
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