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Originally posted by sumydidWell the book wouldn't be seen as a "success" by the overwhelming majority his peers working in science. That is relevant, surely?
No. The success or failure of the book is completely irrelevant.
And you pointedly mentioned that what he was doing before he wrote books on intelligent design was "lucrative". So I ask again, are you suggesting that "The Signature in the Cell" - or his other books on intelligent design - have not been lucrative for Stephen Meyer?
You are clearly insinuating that publishing the book (or maybe you mean his previous books) represented a financial sacrifice for Meyer. Can you substantiate this at all?
One final point, are you claiming he "dared come out with" the idea of intelligent design in his book "The Signature in the Cell"?
Originally posted by FMFCan't you guys understand American English without a whole lot of explaining.
Well the book wouldn't be seen as a "success" by the overwhelming majority his peers working in science. That is relevant, surely?
And you pointedly mentioned that what he was doing before he wrote books on intelligent design was "lucrative". So I ask again, are you suggesting that "The Signature in the Cell" - or his other books on intelligent design ...[text shortened]... ome out with" the idea of intelligent design in his book "The Signature in the Cell"?
It is really not any different from British English in meaning. We just
pronounce some words differently.
Originally posted by DasaActually, there is another test.
There are many ways to know if a religion is false - but there are 6 main tests that determine the authenticy of any religion.
Religion is false if.............
1. It is not eternal - because God is eternal and therefore true religion must also be eternal and cannot be created by man in recent times like the pseudo religious teachings of Judaism Christian ...[text shortened]... ck to Godhead.
If your religion doesn't tick the 6 boxes above - then it is false religion.
1. Devote yourself wholeheartedly to said religion.
2. Die.
3. You don't wake up, or worse, you find yourself burning in hell fire for all eternity.
There, I just saved you three steps. You can thank me later. 😛
Originally posted by RJHindsI have no problem whatsoever understanding sumydid's statement: "Stephen Meyer [...] enjoyed lucrative, amicable membership in the scientific community until he dared come out with the idea of intelligent design." I am just trying to ascertain whether sumydid stands by what the statement appears to imply.
Can't you guys understand American English without a whole lot of explaining.
It is really not any different from British English in meaning. We just
pronounce some words differently.
I would also like to know from sumydid how many books he claims Stephen Meyer wrote on science, as opposed to intelligent design, before opting for career as a proponent of intelligent design, and how "lucrative" those science books were.
Originally posted by whodeyIf there's nothing sinful or immoral about the way Dasa leads his life, and - indeed - he lives it in a virtuous way, with compassion and mercy and kindness, are you saying - as a Christian and within the terms of reference of your own chosen religion, that God, as you see Him, will send Dasa to hell regardless?
Actually, there is another test.
1. Devote yourself wholeheartedly to said religion.
2. Die.
3. You don't wake up, or worse, you find yourself burning in hell fire for all eternity.
There, I just saved you three steps. You can thank me later.
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Originally posted by FMFI'm just trying to save the man 3 steps.
If there's nothing sinful or immoral about the way Dasa leads his life, and - indeed - he lives it in a virtuous way, with compassion and mercy and kindness, are you saying - as a Christian and within the terms of reference of your own chosen religion, that God, as you see Him, will send Dasa to hell regardless?
It's my good deed for the day.
Surely that counts toward the "I'm good enough to make it" club. 😀
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Originally posted by FMFRead about him on Wikipedia.
I have no problem whatsoever understanding sumydid's statement: "Stephen Meyer [...] enjoyed lucrative, amicable membership in the scientific community until he dared come out with the idea of intelligent design." I am just trying to ascertain whether sumydid stands by what the statement appears to imply.
I would also like to know from sumydid how many books ...[text shortened]... career as a proponent of intelligent design, and how "lucrative" those science books were.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_C._Meyer
http://www.stephencmeyer.org/biography.php
P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=MjLDdOnClTM
Originally posted by FMFActually I can't speak for Dasa. How could I?
If there's nothing sinful or immoral about the way Dasa leads his life, and - indeed - he lives it in a virtuous way, with compassion and mercy and kindness, are you saying - as a Christian and within the terms of reference of your own chosen religion, that God, as you see Him, will send Dasa to hell regardless?
As for myself, all I know is that I'm not "good" enough to make it. That means that if my faith in Christ is misplaced then Whodey is shishcabob.
Originally posted by DasaMatthew 7:15-20 (King James Version)
There are many ways to know if a religion is false - but there are 6 main tests that determine the authenticy of any religion.
Religion is false if.............
1. It is not eternal - because God is eternal and therefore true religion must also be eternal and cannot be created by man in recent times like the pseudo religious teachings of Judaism Christian ...[text shortened]... ck to Godhead.
If your religion doesn't tick the 6 boxes above - then it is false religion.
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Originally posted by sumydidThat's because ID is not science.
Scientists generally speaking seek to avoid any notion of God and they marginalize anyone who asserts the existence of a Creator.
Read the forward to a wonderful book, "The Signature in the Cell" by physicist Stephen Meyer, who enjoyed lucrative, amicable membership in the scientific community until he dared come out with the idea of intelligent de ...[text shortened]... use they seek God, is the exact opposite of what's really going on. Check your facts.
Originally posted by DasaI'm BAAACK...
There are many ways to know if a religion is false - but there are 6 main tests that determine the authenticy of any religion.
Religion is false if.............
1. It is not eternal - because God is eternal and therefore true religion must also be eternal and cannot be created by man in recent times like the pseudo religious teachings of Judaism Christian ...[text shortened]... ck to Godhead.
If your religion doesn't tick the 6 boxes above - then it is false religion.