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    27 Nov '11 01:421 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    You've written three paragraphs about something else altogether, which is your prerogative of course. However, if you'd like to address the question I asked, then here it is again:

    If there's nothing sinful or immoral about the way Dasa leads his life, and - indeed - he lives it in a virtuous way, with compassion and mercy and kindness, are you saying - as a ...[text shortened]... nce of your own chosen religion, that God, as you see Him, will send Dasa to hell regardless?
    As I have said, the question is "sin" is pointless, unless you are answering to a higher authority. Whodey does not send anyone to hell, therefore, why are you asking me?

    If there is a higher authority and Dasa has sinned against that authority, then that sin must be dealt with at some point. No infinite number of good deeds will ever make that transgression vanish in my opinion.
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    27 Nov '11 01:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    As I have said, the question is "sin" is pointless, unless you are answering to a higher authority. Whodey does not send anyone to hell, therefore, why are you asking me?

    If there is a higher authority and Dasa has sinned against that authority, then that sin must be dealt with at some point. No infinite number of good deeds will ever make that transgression vanish in my opinion.
    OK, fine. You don't have to answer the question if you don't want to.
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    27 Nov '11 05:14
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It sure does follow scientific principles.
    No. It doesn't.

    P.S. The last video in the series of 7 given below concludes that
    the scientific method proves intelligent design.

    What a youtube video 'concludes' is not necessarily true, or don't you know that by now?
    If you want to convince me with references then follow scientific protocol and use references from reputable peer reviewed scientific journals, not youtube videos.
    If you cant to that, then try presenting the argument yourself, or transcribe the video.
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    27 Nov '11 11:22
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Why? It seems more logical to me than the theory of evolution, which
    needs an intelligently designed program for adaptation to even appear
    to be valid.
    So you're reducing science to what 'seems logical' to you.

    Go and read a science book.
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    27 Nov '11 12:15
    Originally posted by Dasa
    There are many ways to know if a religion is false - but there are 6 main tests that determine the authenticy of any religion.

    Religion is false if.............

    1. It is not eternal - because God is eternal and therefore true religion must also be eternal and cannot be created by man in recent times like the pseudo religious teachings of Judaism Christian ...[text shortened]... ck to Godhead.

    If your religion doesn't tick the 6 boxes above - then it is false religion.
    Your points are as usual, just your own personal dogma and therfore not a definition of any use outside of your own opinion; which by all comparisons is biased in the extreme and frighteningly extremist when examined closely.
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    27 Nov '11 12:20
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So you're reducing science to what 'seems logical' to you.

    Go and read a science book.
    I have. I have also taken college level courses in science. Biology and
    foreign language was not required for my major in Electrical Engineering.
    That is why I chose it since I almost failed my Spanish class in High School.
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    27 Nov '11 12:341 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I have. I have also taken college level courses in science. Biology and
    foreign language was not required for my major in Electrical Engineering.
    That is why I chose it since I almost failed my Spanish class in High School.
    Now try that up to date book you have which i recommended.
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    27 Nov '11 14:412 edits
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Now try that up to date book you have which i recommended.
    I still haven't finished my three new chess books yet. And I have
    pre-ordered another chess book due to be released in December.
    So I prefer to read them first. When I get finished with those and
    have nothing better to do I will read the rest of that book. But like
    I told you before, I was not very impressed by the introduction.

    P.S. I think I would prefer to read one of Michael Behe's books
    on the subject of evoulution and intelligent design.
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    27 Nov '11 14:45
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I still haven't finished my three new chess books yet. And I have
    pre-ordered another chess book due to be released in December.
    So I prefer to read them first. When I get finished with those and
    have nothing better to do I will read the rest of that book. But like
    I told you before, I was not very impressed by the introduction.

    P.S. I think I wou ...[text shortened]... efer to read one of Michael Behe's books
    on the subject of evoulution and intelligent design.
    You just don't get it do you? Clueless.
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    27 Nov '11 15:14
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    You just don't get it do you? Clueless.
    I believe I do.
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    28 Nov '11 01:26
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    ".... with sound waves ...." trying to add a bit of science?
    Laughable!

    Why would god speak with no one about to hear?

    And why now, with people about to listen, he is silent?
    Because this world belongs to Satan. Most people just don't want to hear.

    God DOES speak to those who would hear.

    One way is through the Bible.
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    28 Nov '11 03:24
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Because this world belongs to Satan. Most people just don't want to hear.

    God DOES speak to those who would hear.

    One way is through the Bible.
    Because this world belongs to Satan
    god really should get his finger out and do something about that!

    Most people just don't want to hear
    Nonesense. Most theists are clamouring for proof. And atheists would listen to anything realistic promising eternal life.

    God DOES speak to those who would hear.
    One of those should record the conversation

    One way is through the Bible.
    How? Its just a book.
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    28 Nov '11 08:31
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    [b]Because this world belongs to Satan
    god really should get his finger out and do something about that!

    Most people just don't want to hear
    Nonesense. Most theists are clamouring for proof. And atheists would listen to anything realistic promising eternal life.

    God DOES speak to those who would hear.
    One of those should record the conversation

    One way is through the Bible.
    How? Its just a book.[/b]
    Since you don't believe in Satan or God, why don't you do something
    about the evil in the world rather than blaming someone else for doing
    nothing like you.

    Atheists would listen to anything realistic promising eternal life as
    long as it does not include God.

    The conversations between man and God have been recorded. Some
    of them are in the Holy Bible.

    We Christians believe the Holy Bible is more than just another book.
    We believe it has proved itself to be written by God inspired men,
    and is the word of truth. By reading what God has said to others we
    can apply those words to our situations and imagine God speaking
    directly to us to meet our needs.
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    28 Nov '11 08:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Since you don't believe in Satan or God, why don't you do something
    about the evil in the world rather than blaming someone else for doing
    nothing like you.

    Atheists would listen to anything realistic promising eternal life as
    long as it does not include God.

    The conversations between man and God have been recorded. Some
    of them are in the Holy Bi ...[text shortened]... pply those words to our situations and imagine God speaking
    directly to us to meet our needs.
    You have no idea what I may or may not have done about evil in the world. But as usual ignorance doesn't stop you wittering on.

    Your 'answers' are as usual pointless.
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    28 Nov '11 09:15
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    You have no idea what I may or may not have done about evil in the world. But as usual ignorance doesn't stop you wittering on.

    Your 'answers' are as usual pointless.
    I guess you are saying that you have no interest in what I have to say.
    Then, why don't you stop challenging Christians to respond to your
    questions? Ask your fellow atheist to explain it all to you.
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