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Originally posted by RJHindsHow about the nature of the Christ? There was quite a disagreement between Iranaeus and the Gnostics regarding this. Iranaeus was quite ruthless and certainly most un-Christian in his purge.
What for examole do they disagree about?
If you have cared the least little bit to know about Christianity, that is.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMaybe a pillow fight would work. Or is that to violent for you?
As a Christian i cannot condone the use of drugs, however in the case of imminent war
with all diplomatic avenues having been exhausted, dropping LSD bombs would have
had the desired effect. Issue everyone with love guns, loaded up with flowers and let
the war begin. 🙂
Originally posted by CalJustBut Dasa is wrong -- he is not a Christian.
Absolutely!
In my thread on "Process" you rather copped out, but even Dasa admitted that there were at least four occasions in his life where he was sure he was right, but in retrospect found himself to have been wrong.
That means that there is even a slight possibility that even NOW he may be wrong, (although he won't admit it!).
Don't know about y ...[text shortened]... respond! But it certainly applies to me.
Now doesn't that call for mutual tolerance?😉
Originally posted by avalanchethecatJesus never endorsed the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. If you
I can't agree with your interpretations there. Jesus clearly endorses the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. It sounds to me that 'spiritism' is more likely to do with attempting to speak with the dead, which certainly is proscribed by scripture.
are referring to the drinking of wine at the wedding. This was "new wine".
He did not drink anything with a high alcohol content that one would get
drunk on. He never said that was okay to do.
Originally posted by BadwaterThe Gnostics were not true Christians.
How about the nature of the Christ? There was quite a disagreement between Iranaeus and the Gnostics regarding this. Iranaeus was quite ruthless and certainly most un-Christian in his purge.
If you have cared the least little bit to know about Christianity, that is.
Originally posted by RJHindsNew wine? What are you talking about?
Jesus never endorsed the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. If you
are referring to the drinking of wine at the wedding. This was "new wine".
He did not drink anything with a high alcohol content that one would get
drunk on. He never said that was okay to do.
Not ok to drink, but ok to create 120 gallons of and encourage others to drink?
Originally posted by VoidSpiritFrom wikipedia:
interesting concept because the christians aren't true christians either.
Gnosticism is a scholarly term for a set of religious beliefs and spiritual
practices common to early Christianity, Hellenistic Judaism, Greco-Roman
mystery religions, Zoroastrianism (especially Zurvanism), and Neoplatonism.
From Catholic Encycopedia:
Gnosticism: A collective name for a large number of greatly-varying and
pantheistic-idealistic sects, which flourished from some time before the
Christian Era down to the fifth century, and which, while borrowing the
phraseology and some of the tenets of the chief religions of the day, and
especially of Christianity, held matter to be a deterioration of spirit, and the
whole universe a depravation of the Deity, and taught the ultimate end of all
being to be the overcoming of the grossness of matter and the return to the
Parent-Spirit, which return they held to be inaugurated and facilitated by the
appearance of some God-sent Saviour.
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I don't think war is the first or best solution to anything BUT the fact remains were in a fallen world. So do not defend the ones who can't defend themselves!! Let tyranny rule ok. A pillow fight was not going to stop Hitler and if not for the allied effort Britain was next then America. I don't think killing is right but the value is in man being created in the image of his maker. Hitler was going to destroy and did his fellow man.
I guess some would be mamby pamby pacifist and well others will defend but such is life. I would rather go to hell defending others than saying I did nothing at all!! No JW paradise for me I guess.
Manny