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    30 Aug '11 10:57
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What for examole do they disagree about?
    How about the nature of the Christ? There was quite a disagreement between Iranaeus and the Gnostics regarding this. Iranaeus was quite ruthless and certainly most un-Christian in his purge.

    If you have cared the least little bit to know about Christianity, that is.
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    30 Aug '11 21:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    As a Christian i cannot condone the use of drugs, however in the case of imminent war
    with all diplomatic avenues having been exhausted, dropping LSD bombs would have
    had the desired effect. Issue everyone with love guns, loaded up with flowers and let
    the war begin. 🙂
    Maybe a pillow fight would work. Or is that to violent for you?
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    30 Aug '11 21:59
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Are you serious?

    Not sure if serious.



    I'm sorry, but when I regularly hear Christians saying some really, really, really stupid stuff, how can I not disagree with stupid?
    You never hear me saying some really, really, really stupid stuff.
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    30 Aug '11 22:08
    Has it happened yet - the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test of Christianity?
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    30 Aug '11 22:09
    Originally posted by CalJust
    Absolutely!

    In my thread on "Process" you rather copped out, but even Dasa admitted that there were at least four occasions in his life where he was sure he was right, but in retrospect found himself to have been wrong.

    That means that there is even a slight possibility that even NOW he may be wrong, (although he won't admit it!).

    Don't know about y ...[text shortened]... respond! But it certainly applies to me.

    Now doesn't that call for mutual tolerance?😉
    But Dasa is wrong -- he is not a Christian.
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    30 Aug '11 22:24
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    I can't agree with your interpretations there. Jesus clearly endorses the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. It sounds to me that 'spiritism' is more likely to do with attempting to speak with the dead, which certainly is proscribed by scripture.
    Jesus never endorsed the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. If you
    are referring to the drinking of wine at the wedding. This was "new wine".
    He did not drink anything with a high alcohol content that one would get
    drunk on. He never said that was okay to do.
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    30 Aug '11 22:26
    Originally posted by Badwater
    How about the nature of the Christ? There was quite a disagreement between Iranaeus and the Gnostics regarding this. Iranaeus was quite ruthless and certainly most un-Christian in his purge.

    If you have cared the least little bit to know about Christianity, that is.
    The Gnostics were not true Christians.
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    30 Aug '11 23:24
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Jesus never endorsed the use of alcohol as a recreational drug. If you
    are referring to the drinking of wine at the wedding. This was "new wine".
    He did not drink anything with a high alcohol content that one would get
    drunk on. He never said that was okay to do.
    New wine? What are you talking about?

    Not ok to drink, but ok to create 120 gallons of and encourage others to drink?
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    30 Aug '11 23:31
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Maybe a pillow fight would work. Or is that to violent for you?
    smell that RJH?

    I love the smell of fresh cotton on my duvet and pillows in the morning. . . smells like victory!
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    31 Aug '11 00:12
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    smell that RJH?

    I love the smell of fresh cotton on my duvet and pillows in the morning. . . smells like victory!
    I never got hurt in a pillow fight.
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    31 Aug '11 00:15
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    New wine? What are you talking about?

    Not ok to drink, but ok to create 120 gallons of and encourage others to drink?
    New wine is like grape juice. It has very low alcohol content.
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    31 Aug '11 00:31
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Gnostics were not true Christians.
    interesting concept because the christians aren't true christians either.
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    31 Aug '11 01:33
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I never got hurt in a pillow fight.
    good a pillow fight is an excellent alternative to napalm.
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    31 Aug '11 01:37
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    interesting concept because the christians aren't true christians either.
    From wikipedia:
    Gnosticism is a scholarly term for a set of religious beliefs and spiritual
    practices common to early Christianity, Hellenistic Judaism, Greco-Roman
    mystery religions, Zoroastrianism (especially Zurvanism), and Neoplatonism.

    From Catholic Encycopedia:
    Gnosticism: A collective name for a large number of greatly-varying and
    pantheistic-idealistic sects, which flourished from some time before the
    Christian Era down to the fifth century, and which, while borrowing the
    phraseology and some of the tenets of the chief religions of the day, and
    especially of Christianity, held matter to be a deterioration of spirit, and the
    whole universe a depravation of the Deity, and taught the ultimate end of all
    being to be the overcoming of the grossness of matter and the return to the
    Parent-Spirit, which return they held to be inaugurated and facilitated by the
    appearance of some God-sent Saviour.
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    31 Aug '11 04:191 edit
    I don't think war is the first or best solution to anything BUT the fact remains were in a fallen world. So do not defend the ones who can't defend themselves!! Let tyranny rule ok. A pillow fight was not going to stop Hitler and if not for the allied effort Britain was next then America. I don't think killing is right but the value is in man being created in the image of his maker. Hitler was going to destroy and did his fellow man.
    I guess some would be mamby pamby pacifist and well others will defend but such is life. I would rather go to hell defending others than saying I did nothing at all!! No JW paradise for me I guess.


    Manny
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