The Arrogance of Theism and Atheism

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I dunno, you and proper knob seem quite real.

do you accept the possibility that your god does not exist?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
do you accept the possibility that your god does not exist?

Do i accept the possibility? its possible, but unlikely.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have told you that I have no way of knowing whether they exist or not and have formed no beliefs as to their existence or otherwise.

I know you have no way of knowing whether they exist, you've stated that already, but that is now what I'm asking.

So let me get this straight, you're a 44 year old man who cannot say one way or the other whether you believe fairies exist or not? Implausible.

What about Santa Claus? Do you believe he exists?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Do i accept the possibility? its possible, but unlikely.

not bad, youve gone up (slightly) in my estimation. does this not cause you religious problems, i thought you had to believe 100%, as tiny as the percentage may be are you not questioning gods existence?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I know you have no way of knowing whether they exist, you've stated that already, but that is now what I'm asking.

So let me get this straight, you're a 44 year old man who cannot say one way or the other whether you believe fairies exist or not? Implausible.

What about Santa Claus? Do you believe he exists?

I have formed no beliefs as to the existence or non existence of fairies, unicorns, santa clause, elfs or any other creatures regarded as mythical.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
not bad, youve gone up (slightly) in my estimation. does this not cause you religious problems, i thought you had to believe 100%, as tiny as the percentage may be are you not questioning gods existence?

dude as the article points out, debates with regard to the existence or non existence of God are futile. If you are willing to keep your belief within the realms of a subjective belief then fine, if you are offering evidence to substantiate your belief then fine, as soon as you make a truth claim, without substantiating evidence, whether theist or atheist, you have gone beyond the realm of subjective belief and are bordering on arrogance, irrationality and non science.

It is not therefore a question of questioning Gods existence or non existence, its a question of what seems more plausible to us.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have formed no beliefs as to the existence or non existence of fairies, unicorns, santa clause, elfs or any other creatures regarded as mythical.

Sorry, I don't believe you.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Sorry, I don't believe you.

are you claiming to know more about my beliefs than i do myself?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
are you claiming to know more about my beliefs than i do myself?

You've just claimed you have no beliefs in respect to what we've been discussing.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
You've just claimed you have no beliefs in respect to what we've been discussing.

ok, then are you claiming to know more about my non beliefs than i do myself?

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robbie did not write the article, it makes a case against both theists and atheists.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, then are you claiming to know more about my non beliefs than i do myself?

I'm saying that i find it beyond the realms of fantasy, implausible in the extreme and an insult to mine, and every other sentient human being on this planets, intelligence. That you are claiming, at the age of 44, to have formed no beliefs, at all, with regard to fairies, goblins, unicorns, elfs, griffins, Santa Claus and any other mythical creature I can think of.