Originally posted by @romans1009I'll accept this answer. It's more intellectually honest than other opinions, which seem set on telling me what I think.
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
(John 10:16)
I always thought the “other sheep” referred to Gentiles. As far as I know, Jesus is talking to His Jewish disciples in John 16.
Edit: I think it’s similar to the grafting of branches mentioned elsewhere.
Originally posted by @romans1009Thanks for this passage.
These are the verses I was thinking of:
“I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
For ...[text shortened]... od spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.”
(Romans 11:11-21)
Originally posted by @suzianneHappy to oblige
I'll accept this answer. It's more intellectually honest than other opinions, which seem set on telling me what I think.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI don’t need a coping mechanism, Heartpence.
It's a Freudian regression to a childlike state, deployed by Romans with increasing frequency, as a coping mechanism. Psychologically, it's very interesting.
“Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.”
(Joshua 1:9)
“Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.”
(Isaiah 41:10)
I write about tiger and Shetland Primary because it amuses me and I like to needle dive by infantalizing him (engaging in sinful payback from when he antagonized me.)
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Originally posted by @romans1009Okay, let me understand this. You are willfully and repeatedly engaging in sinful payback?!
I don’t need a coping mechanism, Heartpence.
“Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.”
(Joshua 1:9)
“Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I w ...[text shortened]... ke to needle dive by infantalizing him (engaging in sinful payback from when he antagonized me.)
Would be interested to hear (genuinely) how you balance this with the following key verse from Matthew:
'If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.'
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI don’t. It’s payback, but it’s not nasty. I think it’s playful and amusing, but I know it irritates dive and that’s partly why I do it. But mostly, I think it’s funny. I literally lol’d at a few of the posts I wrote and re-read them with great amusement.
Okay, let me understand this. You are willfully and repeatedly engaging in sinful payback?!
Would be interested to hear (genuinely) how you balance this with the following key verse from Matthew:
'If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.'
Originally posted by @romans1009So the following simply doesn't apply to you, gotcha.
I don’t. It’s payback, but it’s not nasty. I think it’s playful and amusing, but I know it irritates dive and that’s partly why I do it. But mostly, I think it’s funny. I literally lol’d at a few of the posts I wrote and re-read them with great amusement.
'If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.'
(Are there any other teachings from Jesus that don't apply to you? )
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI didn’t say it didn’t apply to me. I don’t always follow it. One of the favorite online games of atheists is to troll and antagonize Christians and then, if the Christian gets fed up and retaliates, accuse them of dishonoring their religion. It’s a pretty slimy thing to do, but I’ve found atheists, when you peel away their pretense, are savages underneath.
So the following simply doesn't apply to you, gotcha.
'If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.'
(Are there any other teachings from Jesus that don't apply to you? )
Yes, I’m aware dive is not an atheist; I went off on a slight tangent. I hope you could follow the bouncing ball.
Originally posted by @romans1009Yes, tangent detected.
I didn’t say it didn’t apply to me. I don’t always follow it. One of the favorite online games of atheists is to troll and antagonize Christians and then, if the Christian gets fed up and retaliates, accuse them of dishonoring their religion. It’s a pretty slimy thing to do, but I’ve found atheists, when you peel away their pretense, are savages undernea ...[text shortened]... ve is not an atheist; I went off on a slight tangent. I hope you could follow the bouncing ball.
The 'pesky atheist' defense is meaningless when discussing your interactions with another Christian and I honestly find it strange that you only sometimes follow the teachings of Jesus and that you apparently see no issue with that.
"I didn’t say it didn’t apply to me. I don’t always follow it."
Originally posted by @romans1009Freud would have had a field day with you. First, childhood regression operating as a defense mechanism and now clear conflict between the 'id' (primitive part of the mind) and the super-ego, consumed as you are by self-gratification and your own amusement.
I don’t. It’s payback, but it’s not nasty. I think it’s playful and amusing, but I know it irritates dive and that’s partly why I do it. But mostly, I think it’s funny. I literally lol’d at a few of the posts I wrote and re-read them with great amusement.
Again, not an online diagnosis, but an observation of your behavior in this forum.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWell I’m not perfect. Neither was Paul, neither were Jesus Christ’s Apostles, neither was King David, neither was Moses, neither was Solomon, neither was anyone else in the Bible, save Jesus Christ.
Yes, tangent detected.
The 'pesky atheist' defense is meaningless when discussing your interactions with another Christian and I honestly find it strange that you only sometimes follow the teachings of Jesus and that you apparently see no issue with that.
"I didn’t say it didn’t apply to me. I don’t always follow it."