1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Aug '17 23:55
    Originally posted by @apathist
    I have no faith belief, and no use for creator gods, revealed truth (prophets) or absolute morality or supernatural magic. I'm an atheist.

    I think it is possible or even likely that the biosphere of earth is sufficient substrate to give rise to mind. I'm a part of it. I believe I've heard or felt it. I couch my awareness of this in mythology, because I ...[text shortened]... re of spiritual reality. So I love the great goddess, terra, mother nature on earth. I am pagan.
    Not "Gaia"?
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    12 Aug '17 08:301 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Why? How does stuff that is "wishy washy" impinge upon you or threaten you or harm you in any way?
    Life isn't just rainbows and butterflies. Lock your doors and keep a hammer close. Be ready to use it.
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    12 Aug '17 08:332 edits
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Not "Gaia"?
    What's in a name. She's terra in my dreams.
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    12 Aug '17 09:04
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Life isn't just rainbows and butterflies. Lock your doors and keep a hammer close. Be ready to use it.
    I don't see why you "hate" religious stuff that is "wishy washy". What about hard line stuff like beheadings, pipe bombs at abortion clinics, the Lord's Army in east Africa, female genital mutilation, etc. ?
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    12 Aug '17 09:06
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Life isn't just rainbows and butterflies. Lock your doors and keep a hammer close. Be ready to use it.
    Under every leaf and pretty flower in the garden, some creature is dismembering some other and gulping it down still half alive.
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    14 Aug '17 05:32
    Originally posted by @fmf
    I don't see why you "hate" religious stuff that is "wishy washy". What about hard line stuff like beheadings, pipe bombs at abortion clinics, the Lord's Army in east Africa, female genital mutilation, etc. ?
    We agree to hate on the harsh stuff.

    Butterflies and rainbows, why would I hate them? I don't really, but I see they lure us into a feeling that the world is safe and nice. It is not.

    I live everyday in an area that could fill glossy magazines with nature pics. And in town meth-heads kill people too often. Lock the doors, be ready to fight. That is the opposite of wishy-washy, right?
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    14 Aug '17 05:37
    la la la we're good people la la locked doors are inconvenient la la butterflies la rainbows la la...
    omfgwtfjh
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    14 Aug '17 05:39
    So bugger wishy-washy crap.
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    14 Aug '17 05:43
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    Under every leaf and pretty flower in the garden, some creature is dismembering some other and gulping it down still half alive.
    I know about the bug world. Makes the red in tooth and claw of the mammal world seem like peace on earth.
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    14 Aug '17 06:57
    Originally posted by @apathist
    What's in a name. She's terra in my dreams.
    Just asking. To each their own.
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    14 Aug '17 07:00
    Originally posted by @apathist
    So bugger wishy-washy crap.
    So... bugger hope? Bugger trying to make the world a better place?
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    14 Aug '17 13:21
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    So... bugger hope? Bugger trying to make the world a better place?
    We are killing our planet, suzi. I don't know if we are waking up before it is too late. That is my objection to the la la stuff.

    But hey, let's go show fashion in a mall walk and talk about the neighbors.
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    14 Aug '17 13:29
    Originally posted by @apathist
    We are killing our planet, suzi. I don't know if we are waking up before it is too late. That is my objection to the la la stuff.

    But hey, let's go show fashion in a mall walk and talk about the neighbors.
    I don't know, all I see everywhere is people complaining, getting in the way of people trying to do something about it.
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    14 Aug '17 22:30
    Originally posted by @apathist
    So bugger wishy-washy crap.
    Actually being 'like water' in your own consiousness is considered a higher way of thinking ..
    (than 'thinking in stone' )
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    14 Aug '17 22:36
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    ... don't know, all I see everywhere is people complaining, getting in the way of people trying to do something about it....
    Reduce, reuse, recycle. As a way of life

    If you are vangard, do a better job.We are up against it.
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