1. Felicific Forest
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    09 Mar '05 01:44
    Originally posted by telerion
    [b]Satan has had Antichrist prototypes prepared in each generation, in case the end times began. Nero, Antiochus, Hitler...all Antichrist's in waiting. There's one alive today, waiting for his master to give him the OK.

    Again we're not talking, but where do you get this crap? This is not scriptural in the least. You've been reading to many Christian fantasy novels.


    [/b]

    Is that you in your avatar box ?
  2. Standard membertelerion
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    09 Mar '05 01:45
    Originally posted by rwingett
    I think that is part of the problem. It seems that there is a direct proportional relationship at work here: the greater the religious zeal, the smaller the sense of humor. You rarely find zealots who have a lively sense of humor. In fact, zealotry seems to require a grim sense of humorlessness. How many evangelical comedians do you find in the world?
    What about that Ray Ramano? That guy doesn't have one dirty joke in him.
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    09 Mar '05 01:47
    Originally posted by ivanhoe

    Is that you in your avatar box ?
    Would you prefer this picture?
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    09 Mar '05 02:021 edit
    Originally posted by telerion
    Would you prefer this picture?
    As long as you're on the throne of God who am I to decide ? Kletsmajoor.

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    09 Mar '05 02:44
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    As long as you're on the throne of God who am I to decide ? Kletsmajoor.

    This better?
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    09 Mar '05 02:59
    Originally posted by telerion
    This better?

    I only like funny humour ...... sorry .....
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    09 Mar '05 11:48
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    That is not what I said, but the Bible does say that if you do not belong to God you are of the Devil, anyone who rejects Christ is ultimately an Anti-Christ.
    What about people who haven't heard the Good News?

    What about people who've been presented with several sets of beliefs purporting to be the Truth? How are they supposed to know which are the right ones and which are the wrong ones?
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    09 Mar '05 12:17
    Originally posted by ivanhoe

    Have you ever witnessed a commie stand-up comedian, Rwingo ? Stalin had a lot of charm, they say ..... but humour ?
    Apparently you've never seen the Red Elvises in concert.
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    09 Mar '05 15:43
    Originally posted by Acolyte
    What about people who haven't heard the Good News?

    What about people who've been presented with several sets of beliefs purporting to be the Truth? How are they supposed to know which are the right ones and which are the wrong ones?
    Study.
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    09 Mar '05 18:16
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Study.
    In other words, if they come to a different conclusion than you have come
    to, they are wrong. That is, if they study and fine Mormonism to be the
    one through which God most effectively communicates, they are, in your
    mind, listening to the devil.

    It amuses me to no end when you call me arrogant.

    Nemesio
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    09 Mar '05 18:18
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    In other words, if they come to a different conclusion than you have come
    to, they are wrong. That is, if they study and fine Mormonism to be the
    one through which God most effectively communicates, they are, in your
    mind, listening to the devil.

    It amuses me to no end when you call me arrogant.

    Nemesio
    If they compared it critically to the Bible, they'd not come to that conclusion. Not with the evidence. Maybe if they let personal things affect their decision, like you, but otherwise, the Bible has no equal. At all.
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    09 Mar '05 18:34
    Originally posted by Darfius
    If they compared it critically to the Bible, they'd not come to that conclusion. Not with the evidence. Maybe if they let personal things affect their decision, like you, but otherwise, the Bible has no equal. At all.
    This sentence illustrates precisely my point.

    People have raised all manner of moral and literary objections to Christianity --
    of the same sort you raise with Mormonism, for example -- and you dismiss
    them. The Midianite contraversy is a good example. Your adherence to the
    non-Biblical concept of inerrancy is another. That one cannot pray to Mary is
    a third. You dismiss other perspectives as well as criticism without any support:
    just the assertion that you are right.

    Somewhere there is a Mormon chat group, and there is a guy named Narfius and
    he is just as convicted about the Mormon tradition as you are with your extreme
    branch of Christianity. He knows that you are wrong just as you know
    that he is wrong.

    My stance: I don't claim to know anything concretely. I just know what people
    make false assertions about their faith.

    This is what makes you arrogant, Darfius. That anyone who disagrees with you
    necessarily has some compromised judgment. I opine that you have many a personal
    thing that has influenced your perspective about God (your slanderous and theologically
    incorrect words about Roman Catholicism being ideal examples). You may be to
    blind to see it now or while you are on earth, but I have no doubt that you will see it
    on the Last Day.

    Nemesio
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    09 Mar '05 18:51
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    This sentence illustrates precisely my point.

    People have raised all manner of moral and literary objections to Christianity --
    of the same sort you raise with Mormonism, for example -- and you dismiss
    them. The Midianite contraversy is a good example. Your adherence to the
    non-Biblical concept of inerrancy is another. That one cannot pray to Mary i ...[text shortened]... r while you are on earth, but I have no doubt that you will see it
    on the Last Day.

    Nemesio
    I find it funny that you're calling me arrogant, Nemesio. Is it possible that I have found the Truth and you haven't? I concede the same.
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    09 Mar '05 20:24
    Originally posted by Darfius
    I find it funny that you're calling me arrogant, Nemesio. Is it possible that I have found the Truth and you haven't? I concede the same.
    You would be a fool to concede it, becaues I don't claim to have
    found the Truth. Similarly, I would be foolish to concede it because
    I think that the arrogance you display in your belief that you are
    in possession of the True Truth (as opposed to the False Truth
    espoused by the Roman Catholic Church, say) is totally analogous
    to the arrogance of the Pharisees who believed they knew the True
    Truth about God's Law.

    Nemesio
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    09 Mar '05 20:30
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    You would be a fool to concede it, becaues I don't claim to have
    found the Truth. Similarly, I would be foolish to concede it because
    I think that the arrogance you display in your belief that you are
    in possession of the True Truth (as opposed to the False Truth
    espoused by the Roman Catholic Church, say) is totally analogous
    to the arrogance of the Pharisees who believed they knew the True
    Truth about God's Law.

    Nemesio
    That's odd, because the Catholics, like the Pharisees, value tradition over the Word of God.

    Guess what Jesus thought of the Pharisees.
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